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Old 11-30-2006, 12:57 AM
sharpie sharpie is offline
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Default AK UI on 3 flush turn OOP

40/25 over 30. Have a note about bluffraising the turn.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero???
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: AK UI on 3 flush turn OOP

this guy is probably retarded enough for the c/c c/c line to work
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: AK UI on 3 flush turn OOP

yeap, c/c down.
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:52 AM
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Default Re: AK UI on 3 flush turn OOP

OK. He checked through and I valuebet a blank river.
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Old 11-30-2006, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: AK UI on 3 flush turn OOP

Check the flop. After a pfr, it looks like trapping. If he bets out, cut your losses and fold -- plug the notorious AK ui leak. If he checks behind, come out betting on the turn.
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Old 11-30-2006, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: AK UI on 3 flush turn OOP

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Check the flop. After a pfr, it looks like trapping. If he bets out, cut your losses and fold -- plug the notorious AK ui leak. If he checks behind, come out betting on the turn.

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WTF.
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Old 11-30-2006, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: AK UI on 3 flush turn OOP

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Check the flop. After a pfr, it looks like trapping. If he bets out, cut your losses and fold -- plug the notorious AK ui leak. If he checks behind, come out betting on the turn.

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WTF.

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no no no notorioussss

EDIT: FWIW, dude who posted that, you will get run over like a 6 year old in Billy Joel's driveway if you play like that

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Old 11-30-2006, 12:03 PM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: AK UI on 3 flush turn OOP

I'd bet. If he doesn't have a good spade or a Ten he will be hard pressed to call. I'd fold to a raise.
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:11 PM
Bill Haywood Bill Haywood is offline
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Re: checking to represent a trap.

FWIW, dude who posted that, you will get run over like a 6 year old in Billy Joel's driveway if you play like that.

I'm not saying do it everytime, but it works constantly for me. You need to set it up with lots of aggression, which is what makes your check look suspicious. True, it would not work against an auto-aggressive table.

But you cannot bet out every single ui AK, AQ, especially when they caught you at it two hands ago. It works best against intermediate players who know to watch for slow play.

This move can also protect you from getting reraised on ragged boards that they know did not hit you. Haven't you ever reraised a ragged board with air because you know it missed the AK preflop raiser? If they check instead, you have to worry about being trapped by sets and pocket pairs, or a just made flush.

I'd like to know the screen names of players whose only move is aggression.
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: AK UI on 3 flush turn OOP

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OK. He checked through and I valuebet a blank river.

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I'd rather check and let the bluffer bluff. I suppose since you showed weakness on the turn he could call you with A high, but he also might raise the river as a bluff (were you bet calling?) here since he's already shown he's capable. So, that is to say I'm not sure what the best play is.
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