Bluff failed. Gutshot missed. Top pair good?

[crookdimwit]

I admit, I made a mess for myself here. This was at the end of a long session, getting a little impatient, and I was trying to make a move on a player who had shown to be pretty passive postflop... How'd I do on each street?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB ($43.80)
UTG ($24.30)
Hero ($24.45)
MP1 ($24.35)
MP2 ($33.85)
MP3 ($34.95)
CO ($25.95)
Button ($25.25)
SB ($15.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, CO calls $3.50.

Turn: ($12.35) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, CO calls $8.

River: ($28.35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $6.25</font>, Hero calls $6.25.

Final Pot: $40.85

[lacrymosa]

I think the turn card may have improved villains hand

[55555]

i don't like the flop reraise or turn bet. I think the fact that the player had been passive post flop and has bet into you on the flop to take your betting lead indicates they have a strong hand.

[Shaddux]

that flop play is bad

[tehDiceman]

did he turn over JQ?

[crookdimwit]

So, as played, what should I have done on the turn? Check/call? Check/fold? Smaller bet?

My thinking on the 2/3 pot-sized turn bet was a) I might represent the flush and induce a fold, b) I've been aggressive preflop and on the flop, maybe firing again on the turn will convince villain to lay down a good, but not monster hand... or c) maybe, just maybe I just took the lead with that king...

Is this bad thinking?

[gimmetheloot]

Flop play is fine. Do this with QJ too sometimes.

I would c/c turn and lead 1/2 pot for river.

[kitaristi0]

Fold PF. Check/fold flop. Flop play sucks because he calls with a bajillion hands anyway.

[crookdimwit]

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Fold PF. Check/fold flop. Flop play sucks because he calls with a bajillion hands anyway.

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Seriously? Fold this preflop? I can see the argument for being less aggro on the flop and the turn... but I don't want to even limp with KQs here?

[Wolfram]

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Seriously? Fold this preflop? I can see the argument for being less aggro on the flop and the turn... but I don't want to even limp with KQs here?

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I am not a FR nit, I play mainly 6max, But...
I think a pf fold is best. Never open limp from UTG/UTG+1. In fact, just never open-limp (unless you have a specific reason for it).

The problem with playing KQs from EP in full ring is that it's basically just a high suited connector. And you don't make that much money playing suited connectors OOP.