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Old 11-25-2006, 06:16 AM
Black winter day Black winter day is offline
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Default Ok, so i have exactly 745 outs or TP 8 kicker is the new nuts

Not really a beat, but still hand that managed to tilt me

Holdem No Limit - $2 BB

UTG ($20)
MP ($323.50)
CO ($192) [Hero]
Button ($450.44)
SB ($205.75)
BB ($213.61)

Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Preflop: (6 players, $3)
UTG checks, MP folds, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, BB calls $8, UTG folds

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, $21)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB raises to $48, Hero raises to $166 and is All-In, BB calls $134

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($385)

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($385)

Results: Hero has K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB has J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
BB wins $384 with Two Pair: Jacks and 8s

Villain was 22/14/3 over few hundreed hands.Had very taggish solid stats.
Standard? Folding equity doesn't exist anymore or something?
I was pretty quiet on that table, no previous bluffs or multiple reraises....
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:22 AM
Moonshine Moonshine is offline
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Default Re: Ok, so i have exactly 745 outs or TP 8 kicker is the new nuts

looks like you got played son

btw, this is neither a beat, brag, or variance
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:32 AM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default Re: Ok, so i have exactly 745 outs or TP 8 kicker is the new nuts

27 outs on turn

no hitting = you are now due

start semi-bluffing 1 outers
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:34 AM
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Default Re: Ok, so i have exactly 745 outs or TP 8 kicker is the new nuts

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27 outs on turn

no hitting = you are now due

start semi-bluffing 1 outers

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I also suggest that you move up so you do better than break even.
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:37 AM
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Default Re: Ok, so i have exactly 745 outs or TP 8 kicker is the new nuts

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Folding equity doesn't exist anymore or something?


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It appears that your small stakes brethren have no respect for raises. As you move up in stakes, you will see that more and more respect is given. Thus, to acquire folding equity you should move up, for that is where they will respect your raises.




Cliff notes:

1) Move up in stakes
2) Do a quick glance around the table to see how much respect you have currently acquired
3a) If your respect level is high, Raise
3b) If your respect level is low, Repeat step 1 until 3a is properly fulfilled
4) Profit
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:37 AM
FUJItheFISH FUJItheFISH is offline
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Default Re: Ok, so i have exactly 745 outs or TP 8 kicker is the new nuts

lolo @ utg $20
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Old 11-25-2006, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: Ok, so i have exactly 745 outs or TP 8 kicker is the new nuts

Why on earth do you shove this flop against a nit
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Old 11-25-2006, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: Ok, so i have exactly 745 outs or TP 8 kicker is the new nuts

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27 outs on turn

no hitting = you are now due

start value betting 1 outers

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Old 11-25-2006, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: Ok, so i have exactly 745 outs or TP 8 kicker is the new nuts

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21 outs on turn

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lol, twodimesaments.
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Old 11-25-2006, 04:56 PM
Black winter day Black winter day is offline
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Default Re: Ok, so i have exactly 745 outs or TP 8 kicker is the new nuts

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Why on earth do you shove this flop against a nit

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Cause i expect him to fold TP in this spot?
I know, i would fold AJ here.I might even fold QQ.
I mean, what can he put me on, after i raise preflop and shove after his c/r?
I either have QQ-AA (or any set) or the hand that i have, FD with 2 overs, which makes me a favorite anyway.
So, he is either very far behind or very little behind.
Which makes it an awesome Sklansky bucks call for me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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