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Old 11-23-2006, 05:45 PM
ahnuld ahnuld is offline
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Default TP and flush draw 1k

1000nl on party. 6 handed, villan is complete unknown.

I raise KT hearts in CO, villan calls in BB. 72 in pot.

Flop comes 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. He checks, I bet 60 and he CRes to 190. If you flat call, what do you do if turn is a blank, like J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and he checks. And he bets pot.
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Old 11-23-2006, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: TP and flush draw 1k

Call down all the way, check the turn if he checks, never bet it unless you hit a flush.
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Old 11-23-2006, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: TP and flush draw 1k

Mostly call and evaluate the turn, if he checks it's a really really easy check behind.
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: TP and flush draw 1k

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Call down all the way, check the turn if he checks, never bet it unless you hit a flush.

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I'd probably do this; but I'd 3-bet sometimes, definitely very very opponent dependent. Also, I'd try to pump up the pot size if I hit a ten sometimes, and maaaaybe, but less likely, a king.
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: TP and flush draw 1k

Just go all in on the flop.
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:12 PM
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Yeah I'd bet the river if I hit a ten. Don't like buffing here though, essentially we're trying to bluff out AK or KQ, and its not too likely for AK to just call PF, nor is it likely for KQ to CR here imo.
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: TP and flush draw 1k

If you play the flop fast you give yourself a chance to get all in vs a dominated draw
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:20 PM
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If you play the flop fast you give yourself a chance to get all in vs a dominated draw

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Obviously. With the SF draw out there it gives us a chance. However, with stack sizes, it's pretty awkward if we can't give them the illusion of FE... which is why I advocate playing it slow the majority of the time, though it's v v dependant on table conditions and a hand like this is often hard to F up unless you overcall the turn and call the river UI.
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:23 PM
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1k stacks btw.


If he made a pot-sized cr to 260 it would make pushing alot better but im afraid pushing now lets some hands that are turly dominated off easy.

What happens if we call and he pots a blank turn?
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: TP and flush draw 1k

sample 1

Board: 2h 3h Kc
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 40.2020 % 39.60% 00.61% { KhTh }
Hand 2: 59.7980 % 59.19% 00.61% { AhKs }

Sample 2

Board: 2h 3h Kc
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 46.3636 % 45.76% 00.61% { KhTh }
Hand 2: 53.6364 % 53.03% 00.61% { AdKs }
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