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Old 11-21-2006, 02:29 PM
j831526 j831526 is offline
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$1-$2 blinds; I have about $160. 5 players call the BB. I call. SB raises $10. Everyone calls. I'm not happy calling a raise with this hand, but the price is right; I call.

There is now $93 in the pot after the rake. Flop is Tc8c2c, and everyone checks around to me. Now what?
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:32 PM
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Bet $75.
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:35 PM
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Not a huge fan of preflop TBH. If you flop a flush it might not be good. 2 pair is sketchy as well.

Flop is easy bet, like 70 or so.
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:43 PM
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I'm not a big fan of my calls either, but I have position and excellent pot odds. I think I have to do it.

I have less than $150 left on the flop. A $70+ bet doesn't leave me with much left for later streets. If called, my turn bet will give him 4-1 odds.

Anyway, if you bet, SB calls. Next card is 3D. He checks to you again. Now what?
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:44 PM
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Shove obv.. I don't understand this hand. Did you lose to a higher flush or something?
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:50 PM
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Shove obv.. I don't understand this hand. Did you lose to a higher flush or something?

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Old 11-21-2006, 02:54 PM
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Ok - I was just checking. I did lose to a higher flush. I just wanted to verify that my all in was a reasonable move.
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:01 PM
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While I don't see anything terribly wrong with your call preflop, there is something to be learned here. While you were getting "odds" to call, the value of spiking a non-nut flush goes down considerably when more people enter the pot. In a family pot such as this one, Axc is a pretty likely holding. After you called preflop, you were destined to go broke in this hand. I don't hate the preflop call, but it is something to keep in mind with hands like these.

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Old 11-21-2006, 03:27 PM
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I was aware of this danger - even MORE aware after losing the pot [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] But there's only about an 11% chance of someone holding a higher flush with 7 opponents. It's really less than that when you consider that Qcxc and Kcxc would likely move ahead of me rather than risk giving a free card to a lone Ac. Even Acxc might bet out rather than giving someone a free card to fill up.
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:41 PM
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fold.
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