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Old 11-21-2006, 07:39 PM
Jigsaws Jigsaws is offline
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Default PS $5 HU (10 hands). Second nuts and villain check-raises me. :)

Not an incredibly interesting hand history. My question is mostly about the last hand. What's your action on the turn after he check-raises? Do you just shove or call and hope no heart falls off, then shove over his river bet? Ignoring river action in your decision would probably be best.

I think I should've raised 44 from the BB as well. I feel I'm generally too tight OOP. Not sure if that's possible, but seriously: so far I'm 79/39 in position and 16/11 OOP. I think I'd get owned by good opponents.

******* Hand 1 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: t1500
Hero: t1500

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t60</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t40 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: t40


******* Hand 2 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t1480
BB: t1520

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t60</font>, BB calls t40 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t80)</font>.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t120, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t80</font>, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: t80 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: t120


******* Hand 3 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: t1460
Hero: t1540

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB folds.
Uncalled bets: t20 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: t10


******* Hand 4 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t1550
BB: t1450

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero folds, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t20 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: t10


******* Hand 5 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: t1460
Hero: t1540

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB calls t10 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t30)</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t40, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t40</font>, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: t40 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: t40


******* Hand 6 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t1560
BB: t1440

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero calls t10 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t30)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t40, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets t20</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t20 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: t40


******* Hand 7 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: t1460
Hero: t1540

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB calls t10 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t30)</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t40, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t40, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t20</font>, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: t20 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: t40


******* Hand 8 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t1560
BB: t1440

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero calls t10 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t30)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to t60</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t40 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: t40


******* Hand 9 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: t1460
Hero: t1540

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t60</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t40 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: t40


******* Hand 10 ********

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t1520
BB: t1480

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t60</font>, BB calls t40 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t80)</font>.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t120, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t80</font>, BB calls t80 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t200)</font>.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t280, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t180</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to t460</font>, Hero calls t280 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t920)</font>.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t1200, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in t920</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in t880</font>.
Uncalled bets: t40 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: t2960
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Old 11-22-2006, 05:02 AM
acidca acidca is offline
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Default Re: PS $5 HU (10 hands). Second nuts and villain check-raises me. :)

I'm usually shoving the turn on hand 10, but your line is OK too.

I think it's better to be too tight OOP than too loose, but my stats are definately looser than that. Stick the flop C/R into your OOP game, as well as the OOP float. Also, checking the turn with a wide range of hands after I've led the flop (bluff or value) helps me control the pot size and extract a LOT of bluffs when I have hands like middle pair.
Again, though, better to be too tight than too loose OOP.
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Old 11-22-2006, 12:53 PM
lbiars lbiars is offline
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Default Re: PS $5 HU (10 hands). Second nuts and villain check-raises me. :)

The only reason (and sometimes it's a great play) to smooth call his raise on the turn is to try and induce a bluff on the river and call his bet regardless of what comes. If you weren't going to call this river bet, you should have pushed on the turn. Only hands you're worried about are Ah2x and Ah9x, assuming he reraises with AK preflop and doesn't call the flop with A high only. If he had the nuts on the turn, he played it really badly. I would call here.

Lee
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Old 11-22-2006, 01:24 PM
Jigsaws Jigsaws is offline
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Default Re: PS $5 HU (10 hands). Second nuts and villain check-raises me. :)

OOP float: check-call flop, lead turn? Or check-call flop, check-check turn, lead river? check-call, check-raise turn?

Lee, I shoved river myself, FWIW, hoping he'd look me up with a high heart. He actually called with 72 (sooooted).

The one time I tried a flop check-raise went like this.

Button raises 3xBB, I smoothcall with QJs. Flop comes K99, two hearts. I check-raise about 3x his bet, thinking this flop should have missed him a lot. I get called by A5o.
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Old 11-22-2006, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: PS $5 HU (10 hands). Second nuts and villain check-raises me. :)

IMO C/Ring light and floating OOP is NOT a good idea against players who will call you light (90% of $5 players).
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:34 PM
lbiars lbiars is offline
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Default Re: PS $5 HU (10 hands). Second nuts and villain check-raises me. :)

OK, so we're thinking is the same. Obviously since he called you with ace high no kicker with a CR on the flop, the semi-bluff CR on the flop probably isn't the way to go. In the case of this hand against this guy, I play it the same exact way you did.

He must've been pissed. I hate when my 72 suited gets cracked.

Lee
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