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Old 11-20-2006, 03:57 PM
JooWish622 JooWish622 is offline
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Default KK line. low board/draw-heavy/ board pair the works.

Hero and Villain have 800 behind. 3-6 6 handed. Villain is playing solid, not too weak-not too strong, nothing spectacular. Hero is playing his usual brand of great poker.

Hero is dealt KK UTG+1. Villain is on button.

Hero raises to 20. Folds to Villain who calls. Blinds fold.

Flop: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero bets 35. Villain raises to 85. Hero calls.

Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Hero checks. Villain bets 110. Hero calls.

River: 8. Hero bets 150. Villain calls.

Standard?

I was shown 74 for the straight. Do we just check fold river if he bets instead? That seems to suck since i see him playing 99 QQ the same way. I hate being OOP

If i was in position the whole hand, and i call the turn bet of 110, do i just open fold the river when he bets 200?
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Old 11-20-2006, 04:36 PM
McIntireUVA McIntireUVA is offline
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Default Re: KK line. low board/draw-heavy/ board pair the works.

As played, I don't like the bet on the river. Sure, you counterfeitted 56 but I think you make most of your money off bluffs from missed draws. I like check/call.

With that said, I usually bet the turn here and seriously consider folding the river if I'm met with resistence on the turn. Drawy board = make him pay for flush draw.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:04 PM
Matte_Maiden Matte_Maiden is offline
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Default Re: KK line. low board/draw-heavy/ board pair the works.

TT-QQ or at least JJ and QQ will probably 3-bet you preflop. 99 checks behind on the turn a lot. So, the only hand we valuebet against are pretty much never his actual hand.

So, IMO the river bet is rather "spewy" or whatever you englishspeaking guys call it. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

The rest of the hand is rather standard, I guess.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: KK line. low board/draw-heavy/ board pair the works.

I prefer c/c river. The draws missed and that's a great card for him to bluff at.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: KK line. low board/draw-heavy/ board pair the works.

I really dislike the river bet.
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Old 11-20-2006, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: KK line. low board/draw-heavy/ board pair the works.

Actually I think I was being results-oriented with my last post. Bet and get value from other overpairs, fold to a raise. But make a real bet.
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Old 11-20-2006, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: KK line. low board/draw-heavy/ board pair the works.

I don't think that overpairs are that big a part of his range, not enough for me to like betting.
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Old 11-20-2006, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: KK line. low board/draw-heavy/ board pair the works.

I might reraise him on that flop. If he calls, you think he simply has an 8. He can't call a re-re raise on that board with any draw. He re pops with any made hand, and you can get away from the KK.
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Old 11-20-2006, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: KK line. low board/draw-heavy/ board pair the works.

The river bet really sucks imo
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Old 11-20-2006, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: KK line. low board/draw-heavy/ board pair the works.

bad spot to block bet riv, just check and re-eval based on the obv - bet size, timing, history, reads, etc. i think this is a decent spot to b/f turn to protect against draws since i could see this getting checked back pretty often.
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