Isolate the shortstack as a shortstack.

[shaundeeb]

image is very good down to 20ish people $40 FO the limpers have limped a few times lately.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t22618)
UTG (t33491)
MP1 (t16594)
MP2 (t31588)
CO (t12695)
Button (t3707)
Hero (t8994)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t1200, MP2 calls t1200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t3632</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t8919</font>,

[registrar]

I was going to say that, as MP2, I'm not folding anything I've limped with but actually, that's not true. If my hand was worth a 30% stack flip, I'd have raised already most of the time, so I quite like this as MP1 has to worry about MP2.

[AceLuby]

seems ok to me, but w/ my luck they were limping w/ AA.

[RichC.]

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seems ok to me, but w/ my luck they were limping w/ AA.

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[FortunaMaximus]

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seems ok to me, but w/ my luck they were limping w/ 99.

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K9o is fairly strong for this spot, I think.

[shaundeeb]

I wasn't afriad of a limped bighand as I said in OP last 3-4 orbits both of these guys had been open limping I would say twice an orbit rarely both in same pot though.

[orestto]

Well...I don't love this play. I think the button has a better hand than K9o, although we don't have more information on him, he may be a decent player and just try to make a move with JT or a weak hand like that. I think he at least has an Ace.

Odds. There's like, what, 7,8k in the pot when the action gets to you. You have to call a 3k raise, getting a little over 2.5 : 1 odds? If you're not dominated, odds are good.

Now. Tournament wise, if you lose (which is most probable), you'll have like 5k chips. Which isn't really good. I'd rather be doing the original pushing that calling+pushing a guy that went all-in with a marginal hand. Like, if the button had folded, going all-in with K9o is a good move. But now that someone has shown some strenght, I don't find that much of a good reason to push with a marginal hand, even if you get the hand heads-up.

It's an interesting move, though. Had never thought about doing that with a marginal hand, the odds are clearly good. I think I'd be more on the side of doing it if you had more chips. Say you were the guy with 30k chips in the same position and re-raise to 9k. Now I'd like this play.

I'm interested in other thoughts too, though.

[Beachman42]

Do you really think K-9 o is strong enough to Iso with? Hero is getting 2:1 if everyone folds, but is exposed to 2 more to act which are getting 2:1 (~7,400 into a pot of ~15,800) to call Hero's push. This seems like quite a gambool and will certainly have image implications later, good or bad.

[orestto]

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I was going to say that, as MP2, I'm not folding anything I've limped with but actually, that's not true. If my hand was worth a 30% stack flip, I'd have raised already most of the time, so I quite like this as MP1 has to worry about MP2.

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MP1 (t 16, 594 )
MP2 (t 31, 588 )

[shaundeeb]

wow guys all your math is off I am getting 4 to 1 on my call of the 3k more if everyone else folds.