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1. Crazy 18 54.55%
8. Always On My Mind 15 45.45%
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:56 AM
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Default For REAL this time......

You are in the SB. Everyone folds to the Button, who raises. His ATSB% is 30-35. What is the worst Axo/Axs you will reraise with? Let's assume BB is a complete unknown.
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:04 AM
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I voted A9o and A8s. His numbers do not indicate a habitual blind stealer, our position is terrible and I don't care to get involved with a junky A that will likely miss the flop and I'll have no idea where I stand in the hand.
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: For REAL this time......

I'm the same way, but I feel like there is so much 3-betting going on with junky aces that I'd like to see where people stand on this one. I really hate giving up hands like A5s in the SB, especially with a 2/3 blind structure. Is cold-calling even an option if BB is real loose-passive?
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: For REAL this time......

Who's the donkey that picked 2 offsuit hands? I said A9o and A8s. Also, yeah it's structure dependent.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:13 PM
DING-DONG YO DING-DONG YO is offline
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Agreed, my answer may change based on blind structure. I play a 2/5 blind structure usually.

And this is blasphemy but I think blind stealing/defense has it place, but is way overrated and taken way too far in most cases. Life has been much better since I adopted this attitude.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: For REAL this time......

I would consider playing A7o+ and A5s+, but this is definitely subject to the looseness of the BB as well as the postflop tendencies of the Button, along with other considerations for image, etc. If the BB will liberally call 2 more bets with a lot of holdings I raise my standards. If the Button is very aggressive/tricky postflop I also raise my standards.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: For REAL this time......

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Agreed, my answer may change based on blind structure. I play a 2/5 blind structure usually.

And this is blasphemy but I think blind stealing/defense has it place, but is way overrated and taken way too far in most cases. Life has been much better since I adopted this attitude.

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Take a look at all the high stakes threads about pf stuff, it's similar to this. I think folding a lot of these is -EV but also negative variance.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:35 PM
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I think folding a lot of these is -EV but also negative variance.

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Danza, do you mean folding them is -EV because you're ahead PF so you're giving up a PF edge at times (to which I would agree)?

Or do you mean it's -EV and you should always 3bet PF regardless of position if you think you're ahead PF (to which I would not agree)
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: For REAL this time......

The first one

But wow I thought this was SB vs. BB haha. But, i still meant what I posted in regards to your post. Now I like your post a LOT more. with a 2/5, you are right and less of these are +EV IMO.
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Old 11-09-2006, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: For REAL this time......

any Ace is teh nuts
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