100NL - 4-betting Aqo agaisnt an aggro pf player.

Jay Riall · #1 11-02-2006, 05:20 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($99)
BB ($42.75)
Hero ($107.05)
MP ($17.48)
CO ($132)
Button ($95.29)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, CO raises to $12, 3 folds, Hero raises to $40, CO calls $28.

Flop: ($81.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($81.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: ($81.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $40, Hero calls $40.

Final Pot: $161.50

Villain is aggro 2+2 type player. Raises and reraises a lot pf. I think his raising range is wide here, but his calling range is probably QQ+, AK. Hows my pf 4-bet? It's either raise or fold right? Postflop ok? My call on the end was a crying one, I was pretty much certain he had KK here.

HerbieGRD · #2 11-02-2006, 05:26 PM

Why no turn bet???

Requin · #3 11-02-2006, 05:26 PM

4-bet is ok, its a bluff obviously but calling isn't great OOP unless he's reaaaally out of line. Folding is standard though. On the flop I stick it in, your are never getting away from this hand in a 4-bet pot, so may as well give him a chance to call if he puts you on air.

KLJ · #4 11-02-2006, 05:27 PM

PF yeah OOP raise/fold. $40ish is good. Just push flop methinks.

Jay Riall · #5 11-02-2006, 05:32 PM

Yeah, I usually just fold, but I think I have to 4-bet here sometimes, I play with this guy a fair bit. Why the [censored] would I shove flop? He's not calling pf with AJ. A better case could be made for pushing the turn, but I still don't think he calls with KK/JJ here.

Jay Riall · #6 11-02-2006, 05:32 PM

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4-bet is ok, its a bluff obviously but calling isn't great OOP unless he's reaaaally out of line. Folding is standard though. On the flop I stick it in, your are never getting away from this hand in a 4-bet pot, so may as well give him a chance to play perfectly .

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gimmetheloot · #7 11-02-2006, 05:34 PM

If you whiff, do you shove? I really hate this 4 bet unless you plan to follow us regardless of the flop.

I really hate 4 bets like this in general.

novel20 · #8 11-02-2006, 05:40 PM

What hands are you beating on river? Why do you want to just call the river? You want to save your remaining $20?
If you think you have enough chance to win on river, why not pushing the remaining $20 in? You really think he has QQ, JJ or AJ?

As played, if you check, check, then fold to the river bet.

Check flop is fine, but why didn't you bet turn?

BigJimSlade · #9 11-02-2006, 05:43 PM

If he had KK, wouldn't he just shove after your 4-bet? Calling here with KK just seems really weird to me.

Jay Riall · #10 11-02-2006, 05:45 PM

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Check flop is fine, but why didn't you bet turn?

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Because I really don't think he calls with a worse hand. My 4-bet relied mainly on him folding a lot of hands pf. I am a massive dog to his calling range pf.