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Old 10-25-2006, 11:11 PM
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Default Sucker straight vs a Sucker (deep)

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Villain in this hand has played 3 hands of note. The first one is vs me on my third hand at the table. 4 handed, Villain limps UTG, I make it 10 otb w/ JJ, BB calls, Villain reraises to 100, I push, Villain calls. He wins w/ QQ. Let me know if I should have gotten away here but this is a side issue.

The second hand is 5 handed. I raise AQ UTG, Villain minraies me from the BB. Flop comes 24T, he bets 18/30 and I decide to call (bad I know). Turn is an ace, he bets I call. River is a 5, he bets small, I shove he calls me w/ AJ.

The third hand is they key hand in terms of my post. I don't remember the exact action in the hand but here's roughly what happened. Villain raised pf w/ 44 and got 2 callers. Flop came A23 and it was checked around. Turn is a 4, some guy leads, villain minraises, third guy pushes over all in, original leader calls, and villain calls. The 3bet pusher won w/ 55 (all had full stacks).

Since then, I've had direct position on villain and we're both over 200bb deeps so I've been raising every single time that he limps in an effort to isolate and build a pot w/ him. However, he has been playing extremely tight, always limp-folding or limp-calling then check/folding to my flop bet.

Now onto the hand.

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Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $10</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($23, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $16</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($55, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $37</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $150</font>, Hero ??

If you choose to call, assuming the river is a blank do you call all-in, half-pot? Do you bet if checked to?
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Old 10-25-2006, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: Sucker straight vs a Sucker (deep)

1st hand i fold to his limpreraise. bad push against unknown.

2nd hand is a terrible shove on the river and i think u just got lucky that he called so light.

3rd hand is meh. he knew he was behind, but with two allins in front he wanted to boat up. whatever

onto your hand, i don't see why this isn't a clear fold. you have the ass-end straight against a huge checkraise. So are you the sucker?
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Old 10-25-2006, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: Sucker straight vs a Sucker (deep)

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So are you the sucker?


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That is a distinct possiblity [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-25-2006, 11:38 PM
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Looks like an auto-fold to me, especially since he's been playing tight against you.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:21 AM
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definitely fold. I would be very surprised to not see a T in his hand.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:27 AM
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Fold, at best you're chopping, even if this guy is a spaz.
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: Sucker straight vs a Sucker (deep)

against a guy with a little bit of aggro in him OOP, i think checking behind here isn't bad.

we have a decent hand but no redraw and it sucks to get pushed off of it. we'd like to get value out of his worse hands and also charge draws, but
1) we're going to have a hard time getting value from one pair hands here
2) hearts probably aren't enough of his range to justify value betting or protecting your hand
3) the better straight draw got there....

as played i can muck this pretty easily
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:36 AM
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Instamuck. This is not the hand you want to risk your stack with against this guy.
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