Anyone Hate This Shove?

[ASPoker8]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t1785)
Hero (t2611)
BB (t10145)
UTG (t7723)
UTG+1 (t3295)
MP1 (t9555)
MP2 (t6210)
CO (t7770)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t200, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t875) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2386</font>

[Omahahaha]

id rather lead out here. good chance you have the best hand since there were no preflop raises, and perhaps some action from weaker aces that limped in. but i don twant to risk it being checked around and giving a free card.

[Snarf]

asp,

I think its absolutely perfect. Exactly how I play it 2/3 of the time or more.


Snarf

[SuperUberBob]

I like the CRAI. Villain is committed to call so long as he has anything at all.

[skier_5]

I'm not the biggest fan. I think the c/r basically turns your hand into a bluff. Against some opponents this might be ok if they are huge calling stations or can't fold flush draws. Leadings ok, but I like checking better.

To be honest, I almost want to simply fold to this bet, most people don't just bet pot for no reason.

With this stack size I almost want to push/fold preflop.

edit: 1 more limper or antes and I really like a shove here. Helps if a big stack isn't last to act as well.

[McMelchior]

With A9 and 13 BBs in the SB after one LP limper I give a PF push a lot of thought.

I lead the flop no doubt, but the result is probably going to be the same as here.

[FortunaMaximus]

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With A9 and 13 BBs in the SB after one LP limper I give a PF push a lot of thought.

I lead the flop no doubt, but the result is probably going to be the same as here.

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Pretty much, if you're going to be behind. If Villain is drawing or has a strong PP, he's not going to check-behind many flops after your check, and those that he does gives you a free card to improve. Although your chances of improving are pretty low, you want to go to the felt with this.

A LP limper trapping with QQ or KK, for instance, would c-bet the flop pretty strongly, unassumingly "knowing" you don't have an A and can price out the times you have your heart draws.

But, yeah, a PF push is probably more +cEV here.

Edit: Multi-way, not so much. c/f 'cause you got two to act after and I dislike the UTG limp.

[runout_mick]

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With this stack size I almost want to push/fold preflop.

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Preflop, I'll probably fold 25%, call 25%, and push 50% of the time.

Postflop, I'll probably lead 50% of the time, and check/fold or check/push 50% depending on the action back to me.

Here, I think the check/push is pretty because we'll get called by a lot of worse hands that put us on a draw, and occasionally called by draws.

No problem at all IMO with how this one played out.