A Few Chop Blocks: $3/$6 6-Max

Big_Jim · #1 10-17-2006, 08:50 AM

No strong reads that I can remember on any of these.

Ultimate Bet
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3./$6.
3 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $679.90
SB: $1837.15
BB: $1207.10

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $21, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($45, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $34.5, BB calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($114, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($114, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero is all-in $624.4

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Ultimate Bet
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3./$6.
3 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Button: $738.50
Hero: $746.70
BB: $1342.30

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Button folds, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($12, 2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12, 2 players)
Hero bets $9, BB calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($30, 2 players)
Hero bets $60

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Ultimate Bet
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3./$6.
3 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $1625.20
SB: $1002.15
BB: $724.60

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $21, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($45, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $34.5, BB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($114, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($114, 2 players)
BB bets $70, Hero raises to $250

Big_Jim · #2 10-17-2006, 08:52 AM

PF/flop combo sucks in hand 2, as I look at it, again.

ArturiusX · #3 10-17-2006, 08:54 AM

I like hand 1, I check hand 2 on the river and I think betting is pretty bad, and hand 3 is pretty hot if he's decent.

Petteri · #4 10-17-2006, 09:43 AM

#1. I think pot is bit small for that massive overbet.

#2 Spewing.

#3 I like it!

aejones · #5 10-17-2006, 09:54 AM

Hand 1 is standard for me, though many probably say that is extreme (obv I'm going with the flow of the game, but I'll do it with a 6 when I feel like someone is tired of getting run over and thinks trying to split here with me will somehow slow me down).

Hand 2 doesn't look so good because I can't discount that he's got a big hand, something that beats the board. Definitely something I try not to do OOP.

Hand 3 is good if he's on the right skill level.

CopTHIS · #6 10-17-2006, 09:54 AM

God I hate hand 1. I mean, he can't have anything more than the board really, but still....

KRANTZ · #7 10-17-2006, 12:09 PM

hand 3 is great. i hate hate HATE the other two.

#8 10-17-2006, 12:15 PM

hand 1's overbet seems a little too big. i think u can accomplish the same thing with a PSB. do you really think he's tricky enough to check a 6 or 67[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]s here or even trickier to c-r bluff you?

hand 2 not a fan of preflop limp or riv overbet. resk is ok i guess tho

hand 3 i don't see why everyone likes it so much. i would just call here and expect to chop a lot. i dont think he's folding Ax here like ever and you are just opening yourself up to losing more $ to three 5s.

dtan05 · #9 10-17-2006, 12:16 PM

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hand 3 is great. i hate hate HATE the other two.

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DJ Sensei · #10 10-17-2006, 02:43 PM

the thing about hand 3 is that theres a legitimate possibility that:
a) hero has AK or KK or something good like that
b) hero has a 5
c) villain doesnt realize that his AT or whatever is chopping with most aces

so 3 is good.

In the others, its just a matter of figuring out if the other player folds the split often enough to squeeze out that extra 1/2 pot of EV with a big bet... And how often he actually has the goods and will own you.
So, in hand 1, your price for the steal is 10:1. Not good. 1 out of 11 of his flush draws have a 6 in them, probably, and 1 out of 11 of his Ax's have a 6 too. (Those are very fuzzy math, naturally, but just trying to make the point) I think its rare that he'll check a 6 to you on this river, but its still too costly of a bluff.

In hand 2, your price for the steal is 4:1. Better, but still not great. And don't expect him to fold this one often either given how you've played it so far.