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Old 10-11-2006, 07:50 PM
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Default A Hand Involving 77 OOP Against a TAG

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i get 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]in the SB. folds to the only other decent player in MP who open raises. this is slightly early for a steal from him but his range is probably wider than normal given his position. folds to me in the sb, i 3bet, bb flips his cards at the muck exposing the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], MP 4bets, i call.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

i check, he bets, i checkraise, he 3bets, i call.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

i check...

i edited the turn action b/c i confused it with another hand. i did check the turn here, though. what is the most prudent way to proceed? sorry to those that read the pre-edited post.
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:16 PM
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You're checking with the intention to raise right? I like the plan, if he checks behind then don't worry, he's calling a river bet most of the tme and would have folded if you'd 4bet and bet the turn. Your read on his 4betting range will be useful if he 3bets on on the turn.
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:28 PM
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I like it (assuming that you are going to c/r). He's got no reason to slow down now, so I doubt the turn will get checked through.

If the turn was a total blank, I think you could make a case for donking it, hoping to 3-bet. As is, this turn might shut him down if you bet out.
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Old 10-12-2006, 12:49 AM
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I think I'd checkraise here too but just a thought - Are you sure he's not just angling for a free card here with the diamond draw.
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Old 10-12-2006, 01:00 AM
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Bet/call flop, bet/3-bet turn.
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Old 10-12-2006, 02:21 AM
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Bet/call flop, bet/3-bet turn.

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so hot. as played c/r the turn and call down a 3 bet.
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:11 AM
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Bet/call flop, bet/3-bet turn.

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certainly my standard line. some could accuse me of overusing it, actually. what combos are giving me that kind of action? keep in mind he capped PF. FYI, he's not capping very light here, either as he's not a very creative player. it's probably JJ+, AQ+. how should the exposed Ace factor into my decision making based on his range? thanks.
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Old 10-12-2006, 11:45 AM
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how should the exposed Ace factor into my decision making based on his range? thanks.

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He doesn't think you have an Ace. He thinks you think he doesn't have an Ace.
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Old 10-12-2006, 12:13 PM
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how should the exposed Ace factor into my decision making based on his range? thanks.

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He doesn't think you have an Ace. He thinks you think he doesn't have an Ace.

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okay, how should the exposed Ace factor into my estimating his handrange and my equity against it? it decreases all combos holding an ace, right?

edit to say i don't really think he's capable of thinking about what i'm thinking about. at least not on the level you described. more of "his own two cards" kind of thing.
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Old 10-12-2006, 03:06 PM
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okay, how should the exposed Ace factor into my estimating his handrange and my equity against it? it decreases all combos holding an ace, right?

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Assuming his hand range after the flop 3-bet is AA, KK, AK then you're ahead of 60% of his hands regardless of the exposed A: 9 AK vs 6 AA/KK w/ 3 As left, 6AK vs 4 AA/KK w/ 3 As left.

If he'll play AQ, this way, the exposed A still doesn't make a difference - you're ahead 78% of his hand range.
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