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Old 05-19-2007, 11:43 AM
jogger08152 jogger08152 is offline
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Default The wondrous, non-coercive philosophy of anarcho-capitalism

Guys,

AC's on here frequently compare their "non-coercive" philosophy with that of organized government, no matter how small.

Please: Give this podcast a listen and judge for yourself.

http://www.freedomainradio.com/Traff...e_beasts32.mp3

The speaker is Stefan Molyneux, anarcho-capitalist and host of freedomainradio.com.

The whole podcast is about 20 minutes long, but you can get right to the meat by starting at at 8 min, 0 seconds (Begins with "However, the stateless society goes much, much further in preventing crime..."). This will give you an excellent look at the peaceful, non-coercive nature of AC.

The stuff from 9 min, 0 seconds (beginning "Suppose that you wake up one morning and decide to become a thief...") is especially enlightening.

Note: if you are an AC who argues against government because you are forced to participate whether or not you want to, you owe it to yourself to listen to this.

Hope you guys find this as informative as I did.

Best regards,
Jogger
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Old 05-19-2007, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: The wondrous, non-coercive philosophy of anarcho-capitalism

Those voluntary solutions to problems are very enlightening. Thanks.
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Old 05-19-2007, 12:15 PM
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Which part did you like better? The part where he talked about identifying people who "are going to become" criminals? Or the part about forcing a wife to choose between divorcing their husbands and relocating if the husband drops out of the (voluntary, heh) DRO system, or losing her own coverage and consequently being unable to buy groceries.
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Old 05-19-2007, 12:58 PM
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Please state your specific objections.
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Old 05-19-2007, 01:11 PM
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Honestly at this point I'd rather people just listened and made their own judgments.
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Old 05-19-2007, 01:16 PM
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That's not a very statist philosophy.. people making their own judgments? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-19-2007, 01:17 PM
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If you tell us what your problems are then we can talk about them. Maybe you are right and the DRO system would fail. Fine. But let's figure it out.
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Old 05-19-2007, 02:27 PM
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If you tell us what your problems are then we can talk about them. Maybe you are right and the DRO system would fail. Fine. But let's figure it out.

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Actually if you wouldn't mind, I'd like to hear your thoughts. Did this sound good to you? Did it reflect the sort of (non-coercive) society in which you'd want to live, raise children, etc?
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Old 05-19-2007, 02:35 PM
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It sounds like a wonderful utopia to me.
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Old 05-19-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: The wondrous, non-coercive philosophy of anarcho-capitalism

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If you tell us what your problems are then we can talk about them. Maybe you are right and the DRO system would fail. Fine. But let's figure it out.

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Actually if you wouldn't mind, I'd like to hear your thoughts. Did this sound good to you? Did it reflect the sort of (non-coercive) society in which you'd want to live, raise children, etc?

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Would I want to live in this society? Compared to what?

You do realize he is talking about murderers, rapists, con men and child molesters, correct? He isn't talking about locking guys in a cage for 10 years for owning small amounts of drugs, hes not talking about the systematic torture and repression of large segments of the population based on arbitrary rules. All he's saying is that a group who is not formally organized can reject those who would act in ways which would be deemed anit social. Are you seriously saying that there is a problem with an insurance company not wanting to file a policy for a child molester? That a hardware store doesn't want rapists buying duck tape there?
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