10/20 river

gehrig · #1 09-26-2006, 08:08 PM

fish limps UTG, tag raises, i call in the BB with QTo

flop is Tragrag rainbow i c/r and its HU
turn Q, i bet tag raises i 3bet he calls
river pairs one of the rags. what's your plan?

milesdyson · #2 09-26-2006, 08:29 PM

bet, cry if raised, call like fish?

or check and hope he doesnt think you're check raising or that you're check folding three pair, then call.

if he'll bet KQ on the river, i would check call. if you think he'd raise an overpair on the river, i think i would also check call. if you only give him AA, KK, AQ, and KQ it's 16:12 or 4:3 that you're good which isnt enough if he value raises his AA/KK hands and you call the raise. if he'll bet KQ then you have an easy check, and for some reason i think most people do.

Leader · #3 09-26-2006, 08:33 PM

Well you got to bet because there is plenty for him to call with AQ/KQ or maybe some other thing he played badly like QJs, but that's rare. I don't think I'd ever fold this at the table to a raise, but I think there's a case for it. An over pair is certainly possible or he could have waited for the river to pop a set again.

Scary_Tiger · #4 09-26-2006, 08:33 PM

I'd check/call. He'll bet KQ most of the time.

gehrig · #5 09-26-2006, 08:38 PM

i think c/c is by far the best. any q is almost always value betting i think. even something like KT will bet sometimes.

i also occasionally get an extra bet from a whiffed draw

The Funky Llama · #6 09-26-2006, 08:38 PM

i'd bet/call here. There are a bunch of hands he can have that will call but not bet (AT, JJ, KT, maybe 99/AK that made a FSR, etc.). QJ/KQ/AQ won't always bet b/c they might fear a checkraise or scared QT (or Q-other rag on flop). You won't get raised very often by an overpair imo b/c you defended in BB and could have a boat.

jay b. · #7 09-26-2006, 10:01 PM

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Victor · #8 09-26-2006, 10:09 PM

betcall seems a bit much. why call? if he raises he decided that river card helped him.

The Funky Llama · #9 09-26-2006, 10:16 PM

vic,

if he raises you will be getting 14:1 and it seems to me like this could be some weirdly played AQ, KJ, etc. at least 1 in 15 times.

New001 · #10 09-27-2006, 12:14 AM

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i'd bet/call here.

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Thirded. Perhaps bet/folding is better, but the pot has gotten very large.