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Old 09-10-2006, 04:49 PM
Requin Requin is offline
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Default Deepish vs. Tarnkt

He's a regular right? Anyways he seems kinda nitty preflop, have him at 17.5/10 over 450 hands, but not bad postflop (nothing stands out). I had been very inline in terms of preflop reraising but hadn't been sitting down that long. I checked the flop, which I can do with a fair range including AA or TT, I think he knows this. When I bet the turn I did it repping only JT (unlikely given how I'd been playing) or TT. Then he raised me, and I figured that had to be a set or air, since I was repping a set or air, right? (And even if it is right, am I giving too much credit to think villain thinks this way?) So I decided to float it and see if he shoved the river. Reasonable? Should I be giving more thought to the fact that there's a double FD out there (I often ignore that in reraised pots)? Thoughts on everything appreciated. BTW for you lazy ones there's about 700 total behind by the river.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1636.10
Hero: $1162.75
Button: $697.60
SB: $1030.55
BB: $690.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $22</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $70</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($149, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($149, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $125</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $377</font>, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($903, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $555</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $555 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $903
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Old 09-10-2006, 04:52 PM
PerDoom PerDoom is offline
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Default Re: Deepish vs. Tarnkt

WTF at turn call?
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Old 09-10-2006, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: Deepish vs. Tarnkt

Hmm I'm looking this over and I think I'm very wrong at that whole nuts or air thing on the turn raise...
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Old 09-10-2006, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Deepish vs. Tarnkt

In all seriousness, please teach me the benefits of checking the flop here with your range.

As played, I'm not sure I see why you called the turn raise. Do you really think that if he's on air and he is a regular, he's not firing again on most rivers?

Also, I'd be inclined to check this turn since you checked the flop.
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Old 09-10-2006, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Deepish vs. Tarnkt

[ QUOTE ]
Also, I'd be inclined to check this turn since you checked the flop.

[/ QUOTE ] I agree with you usually, because I'd check KK/QQ here again and sometimes AA. I thought a bet would be reasonable too though because I wanted to try and fold out AA-QQ with another barrel on river if he just called.

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Do you really think that if he's on air and he is a regular, he's not firing again on most rivers?


[/ QUOTE ] At the time I thought that ya, he would often just give up on the river if he had air. But now I'm rethinking that given the draws out there.
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Old 09-10-2006, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: Deepish vs. Tarnkt

bet the flop or check the turn.
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Old 09-10-2006, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Deepish vs. Tarnkt

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I agree with you usually, because I'd check KK/QQ here again and sometimes AA. I thought a bet would be reasonable too though because I wanted to try and fold out AA-QQ with another barrel on river if he just called.

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I see. I've never played this level, but does AA-KK ever fold to a two-barrel bluff on turn+river?

BTW, I assume you check the flop because you're behind his range and you said you'd do the same with TT/AA, but if you were trying to get QQ-AA to fold, wouldn't a triple barrel be more effective?
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Old 09-10-2006, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: Deepish vs. Tarnkt

I meant I could check the flop with alot of hands, TT and AA being the extremes of the 'legitimate' part of my range, I'm including QQ/KK/other random hands I guess that wasn't so clear. And I'm not sure that he would fold AA/KK/QQ to two barrels there but I think so.
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Old 09-10-2006, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: Deepish vs. Tarnkt

your hand is face up here, and thats not a good thing.

its fine other than turn call, i suppose.
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Old 09-10-2006, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: Deepish vs. Tarnkt

requin this hand is played terrible. Fold to the turn CR he has a set.... Can you really see a 17/10 getting CREATIVE at 3/6? I doubt it.

BTW, check behind on the turn.
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