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Old 09-04-2006, 08:47 PM
jjigglers jjigglers is offline
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Default 400NL: How standard is leading draws in family pots?

Hey guys, trying to learn 6M basics here, just curious about any thoughts. Yes, this hand is pretty boring, I apologize in advance.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1783.42
CO: $214.74
Button: $515.71
jjigglers: $402
BB: $661.37

Pre-flop: (5 players) jjigglers is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Button calls, jjigglers calls, BB checks.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($16, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">jjigglers bets $12</font>
<font color="blue">Leading into it 4 ways with the OESD and the BDFD, builds a pot if I hit vs. a Q, thoughts?</font>
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: How standard is leading draws in family pots?

c/c this flop. against 3 others, betting is meh. if there were 2 players, i lead all day, but against 3+ i think its generally spewy. 3 players is close, 4 is spew imo.
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: How standard is leading draws in family pots?

what happens if you get raised?
are you leading a blank turn?

without a plan i dont like it, drawing hands are hard to play oop and even more so when you take the lead and get lost on the turn.
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: How standard is leading draws in family pots?

c/c and use the clubs as bluff outs.
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: How standard is leading draws in family pots?

Depends what your table image is. Are you playing 15% of your hands or 40%, how aggressive have you been?

I'd be much more comfortable leading this if there wasn't a FD out there but against three and being OOP,I'm not real hot on it.
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:03 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: 400NL: How standard is leading draws in family pots?

yeah, this looks bad. Just c/c
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: How standard is leading draws in family pots?

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if there were 2 players, i lead all day

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Against 2 players and 1 player, how much do you usually lead on a 2-suited flop?
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: How standard is leading draws in family pots?

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if there were 2 players, i lead all day

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Against 2 players and 1 player, how much do you usually lead on a 2-suited flop?

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if i have the straight draw? alot. same with the fd. i play hands like TPBK much more cautiously though.
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:29 PM
Shaddux Shaddux is offline
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Default Re: 400NL: How standard is leading draws in family pots?

If you put villain on a Q, you shouldn't need to lead out in order to build the pot.

c/c
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: How standard is leading draws in family pots?

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if there were 2 players, i lead all day

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Against 2 players and 1 player, how much do you usually lead on a 2-suited flop?

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if i have the straight draw? alot. same with the fd. i play hands like TPBK much more cautiously though.

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Do you overbet, or is it something like a psb? I was thinking OESD in particular, but do the FD's usually play differently?
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