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Old 08-30-2006, 02:30 AM
MadScientist MadScientist is offline
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Default $215 River Decision, Top Two Pair, just check it down or protect it?

This hand may or may not be interesting. I flop top two and bet it out right away. Flush hits on the turn. Straight hits on the river. Check turn and call river is standard.

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UTG (t2335)
UTG+1 (t3795)
MP1 (t3360)
CO (t5030)
Hero (t1650)
SB (t2030)
BB (t1800)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, CO calls t100, <font color="red">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t200, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>

Flop: (t600) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t350</font>, BB calls t350

Turn: (t1300) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t1300) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">BB bets t350</font>, Hero calls t350

Results: <font color="white"> Donk and Go Master in the BB had Q7o </font>
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Old 08-30-2006, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: $215 River Decision, Top Two Pair, just check it down or protect i

how is turn check standard? it looks awful to me. pot is more than your stack.
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Old 08-30-2006, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: $215 River Decision, Top Two Pair, just check it down or protect i

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how is turn check standard? it looks awful to me. pot is more than your stack.

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Old 08-30-2006, 08:00 AM
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Default Re: $215 River Decision, Top Two Pair, just check it down or protect i

I agree with others. You need to get some money in there. I bet slightly more on flop and push turn.
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Old 08-30-2006, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: $215 River Decision, Top Two Pair, just check it down or protect it?

Your PF raise is interesting. Is your read on CO that he is a loose caller and will fold to a smallish raise? (He must be because he folded).

I'd bet a bit more on the flop. Did you bet 350 so you would still have an escape route if a scare card hit? I think I might prefer just pretty much potting it and committing myself (or just pushing all-in on the flop. I know it's a 2x pot bet but it might look to your opponent like you have a draw) I like the way you played the rest of the hand.
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Old 08-30-2006, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: $215 River Decision, Top Two Pair, just check it down or protect i

Ryan, limper had been coming in many hands with his big stack, so I felt he would fold out often. It is an awkward spot on the turn and obviously, I was going to push a safe card. As is, I think calling down is the way to go as I am not afraid of two pair. If a fourth flush card had fallen on the river, I would fold to a push most of the time.
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: $215 River Decision, Top Two Pair, just check it down or protect i

I think if you're going to raise you need to make it 400. He's not folding to that small of a raise given the odds. As for your postflop line, I'd bet a little more on the flop but like the rest.
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: $215 River Decision, Top Two Pair, just check it down or protect i

half potting this flop sucks

it's hard to have a board more coordinated than this one, protect your hand on the flop! i think i openshove this flop a lot of the time.
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: $215 River Decision, Top Two Pair, just check it down or protect i

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how is turn check standard? it looks awful to me. pot is more than your stack.

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I meant to write turn check, river call is standard???

Prob with the flop and the turn is it is hard for me to put him on hands that pay off big bets there that I beat and I am afraid of many of his hands.
I bet half pot on the flop as a c bet hoping for a reraise. I've been getting a lot of naked aggression from donkeys in spots like this and was holding a great hand, so I played it the same as always. I don't like pushing the flop as I don't like to do that when I miss (the majority of the time). However, given the texture of this particular flop, pushing does look good. Potting and then pushing any turn also is attractive here.
As played on the flop, I think check call, turn river is the way to go, but I'm not sure. The pot is big on the turn, so pushing there is attractive.
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: $215 River Decision, Top Two Pair, just check it down or protect i

I really dislike raising t300. I would raise t400 I think there is a big difference. Bet more on flop shove turn.
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