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Old 08-25-2006, 11:30 PM
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Default Should I be shot?

argh im 78th out of 118 blinds still 100 200 when this hand came up. 150 buy in tourney

my read on the villain : I did see him once make a big overpush into a pot with middle pair and then played very conservatively as a huge stack. He had been playing fairly normal but just lost a big pot and was now an average stack.

I think one of the worse things you can do is call an overpush with a marginal hand. so i probably screwed up any thoughts.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 (t4663)
MP1 (t7790)
MP2 (t7575)
CO (t2175)
Hero (t3685)
SB (t9760)
BB (t5631)
UTG (t2965)

Preflop: Hero is Button with :ac, :9s.
[color=#666666]5 folds</font>, Hero calls t200, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t570) :3s, :6d, :ad [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
SB checks, [color=#CC3333]BB bets t600</font>, Hero calls t600, SB folds.

Turn: (t1770) :qc [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]BB bets t4821 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t2875 (All-In).

River: (t9466) :4s [color=#0000FF](2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t9466
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Old 08-25-2006, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: Should I be shot?

This is a flush draw soooo often.

...Or two pair.
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Old 08-25-2006, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: Should I be shot?

TPBK in unraised pot against a BB who's range can be narrowed down to any two...

Which brings up a question - why are we not raising preflop?
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Old 08-25-2006, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: Should I be shot?

i was actually looking to limp reraise due to awkward stack size.
i dont think im laying this down if i raise it on the button preflop.
BB is pretty aggressive so i think if getting more fold equity with a reraise.
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Old 08-25-2006, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: Should I be shot?

why hello bottom two pair

why hello super duper ultra raise preflop, calling his any two push
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Old 08-25-2006, 11:45 PM
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nah he had A 10
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Old 08-25-2006, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: Should I be shot?

When he has AT - you're doomed to go broke on that board no matter the line.

It's those times he checks his worthless 36o preflop and HELLO BOTTOM TWO...

You effectively giving him not one but 3 free cards...
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Old 08-25-2006, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: Should I be shot?

in fairness to myself
i would have probably lost the hand anyway had i raised preflop.
since i held A 9 and he held A 10 i dont think its unrealistic to beleive he could have made the same play with A 7 A 8.
Also it was not a huge overpush of my stack pot was 1700ish bet was 2800.
i probably fold it next time but there are a few points in favor of the call. i generally dont call overpushes because there will probably be an opportunity to win a big pot with less risk
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Old 08-26-2006, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: Should I be shot?

what i dislike about this board is everyone wants to pick apart something not really relevant to the hand.

there are meta reasons and stack size reasons not to raise here. my results are fine.

no one answers the direct question would they call on the turn.
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Old 08-26-2006, 12:26 AM
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I'd like a fold, but I may call too though. Mood / weather dependent. 25% fold 75% call, something like that.
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