10/20 Pac QQ OOP in huge pot

Lunar Tweak · #1 09-06-2006, 06:53 PM

i really got to get better at playing these gigantic pots.

thanks in advance.

Pacific Poker (10 players)
I'm in SB w/ Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

2 folds, EP3 limps(35/5/.8 80 hands), MP1 raises(32/6/.8 50 hands), 4 folds, SB(Hero)3 bets , BB calls (24/11/2.2 70 hands), EP calls, MP1 caps , all call.

Flop (16sb) 4 players

J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero checks, BB bets, EP calls, MP call, Hero raises, BB 3 bets, EP caps, MP folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn (14.5bb) 3 players

J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img][6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]

checks around[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

River (14.5bb) 3 players

J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img][J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]

Hero checks, BB bets, EP calls, Hero (sighs) calls [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img].

gaming_mouse · #2 09-06-2006, 09:20 PM

I'd fold the river for sure.

Flop is really close and tough.... I don't know.

PokerBob · #3 09-06-2006, 09:43 PM

you are never winning on that river

gaming_mouse · #4 09-06-2006, 09:43 PM

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you are never winning on that river

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never + 1

Lunar Tweak · #5 09-07-2006, 03:27 AM

any thoughts other then folding the river?

like flop, should i call and lead safe turn?

as played continue betting turn?

bet river instead of check calling?

thanks.

Nate tha\\\' Great · #6 09-07-2006, 03:57 AM

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any thoughts other then folding the river?

like flop, should i call and lead safe turn?

as played continue betting turn?

bet river instead of check calling?

thanks.

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Once the flop action goes as it does, I would in fact prefer to call and lead a lot of turns.

gaming_mouse · #7 09-07-2006, 04:46 AM

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any thoughts other then folding the river?

like flop, should i call and lead safe turn?

as played continue betting turn?

bet river instead of check calling?

thanks.

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Once the flop action goes as it does, I would in fact prefer to call and lead a lot of turns.

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Nate,

I was actually almost wanting to fold the flop as it was played, since it was 2 back to us, but that feels too weak. So I think I agree with the call, but I couldn't argue the case convincingly. Could you show me how?

Lunar Tweak · #8 09-07-2006, 04:51 AM

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any thoughts other then folding the river?

like flop, should i call and lead safe turn?

as played continue betting turn?

bet river instead of check calling?

thanks.

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Once the flop action goes as it does, I would in fact prefer to call and lead a lot of turns.

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Nate,

I was actually almost wanting to fold the flop as it was played, since it was 2 back to us, but that feels too weak. So I think I agree with the call, but I couldn't argue the case convincingly. Could you show me how?

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i think he meant instead of c/r flop, just call and donk the turn.

EZE · #9 09-11-2006, 01:34 PM

I agree AJ is plausible because 45 cant be unless the guy is insane.

EZE · #10 09-11-2006, 01:36 PM

You cant fold at turn, calling betting on the scare 7 is worth a call even if you get raised only things that could possibly be is JJ AJ ( I think) 45( nope) set of other you already dead almost.

EZ