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#7 LL Cool J- Radio 50 40.98%
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Old 08-20-2006, 10:37 PM
Pog0 Pog0 is offline
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Default limit vs NL, a variance poll

Every time a limit player has an X BB downswing, a NL player has a Y buy-in downswing.
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Old 08-21-2006, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: limit vs NL, a variance poll

Swings are not variance.

Variance.

Variance is a statistic that can be computed given a significant sample size. "Swings" is not a statistic that can be computed, but given enough anecdotal information, you might be able to reach some generalities.

Evidence I have seen indicates that variance is more a function of the game structure, while swings are more a result of individual style. So variance should be relatively stable for a wide range of players, while "swings" could vary greatly depending on whether you were talking about poor, average, good, or expert players.

That said, I can't make any sense out of what you are asking in your poll.
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Old 08-21-2006, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: limit vs NL, a variance poll

We need responses from those who play both NL and limit since they know what it's like to swing both ways.
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Old 08-21-2006, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: limit vs NL, a variance poll

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We need responses from those who play both NL and limit since they know what it's like to swing both ways.

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This must be why I don't like NL (not that there's anything wrong with it).

The OP seems to make certain assumptions, which should have been specified, so I didn't vote.
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Old 08-21-2006, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: limit vs NL, a variance poll

I don't see what people are finding so confusing about the poll or what unreasonable assumptions it makes. If you play both limit and NL, you should be able to fill in X in the following statement: "I have an X buyin downswing at NL about as often as I have a 100 BB downswing in limit". The poll is asking you what X is.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:35 AM
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Default Re: limit vs NL, a variance poll

I understand the poll fine actually.
and I'll be a little interested to view the results from those with experience swinging both ways.

I've only started to play NL in the past couple of weeks so don't have enough 'swinging-both-ways' experience (yet) to contribute to the polls.
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Old 08-21-2006, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: limit vs NL, a variance poll

to that end, it would have been nice to be able to just 'view-results' without having to participate in the poll.

I hate skewing results in polls in which I don't feel qualified to respond.
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Old 08-21-2006, 07:58 AM
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Default Re: limit vs NL, a variance poll

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to that end, it would have been nice to be able to just 'view-results' without having to participate in the poll.

I hate skewing results in polls in which I don't feel qualified to respond.

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I allowed viewing without voting for that very reason.
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Old 08-21-2006, 09:41 AM
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Default Re: limit vs NL, a variance poll

Why so many choices? Wouldn't it just be a ratio?
i.e 1 buy-in for every 100BB?
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Old 08-21-2006, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: limit vs NL, a variance poll

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I don't see what people are finding so confusing about the poll or what unreasonable assumptions it makes. If you play both limit and NL, you should be able to fill in X in the following statement: "I have an X buyin downswing at NL about as often as I have a 100 BB downswing in limit". The poll is asking you what X is.

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I thought it was asking what I think X is typically, not necessarily in my personal experience.

A reasonable, but unstated, assumption is that the games are in some way comparable in 'size'. I play NL $25. It isn't the same size as my limit game ($2/4). The best way to compare games isn't obvious.
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