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[ajmargarine]

Should I be raising 4th or 5th street here? And what would your thought process be behind raising either street? Tx.

PokerStars Game #6000557485: Razz Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/08/21 - 15:37:59 (ET)

*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to xhimit [Tc]
Dealt to unipokerstud [8s]
Dealt to Leana [As]
Dealt to CaptainMAD [Th]
Dealt to AThermopyle [4s]
Dealt to mbardsen [Jc]
Dealt to harpaatti [Jh]
Dealt to ajmargarine [4d 3d 5c]
harpaatti: brings-in low $0.50
ajmargarine: raises $0.50 to $1
xhimit: folds
unipokerstud: folds
Leana: folds
CaptainMAD: folds
AThermopyle: calls $1
mbardsen: folds
harpaatti: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to AThermopyle [4s] [3c]
Dealt to ajmargarine [4d 3d 5c] [Ac]
AThermopyle: bets $1
ajmargarine: calls $1
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to AThermopyle [4s 3c] [Ah]
Dealt to ajmargarine [4d 3d 5c Ac] [7h]
AThermopyle: bets $2
ajmargarine: calls $2
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to AThermopyle [4s 3c Ah] [Td]
Dealt to ajmargarine [4d 3d 5c Ac 7h] [6s]
ajmargarine: bets $2
AThermopyle: calls $2
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to ajmargarine [4d 3d 5c Ac 7h 6s] [5d]
ajmargarine: bets $2
AThermopyle: folds
ajmargarine collected $12.80 from pot
ajmargarine: doesn't show hand

[jba]

i'd raise fifth -- you very likely have him smoked. if he started with a seven or eight you are a big favorite based on a hunch without running numbers or anything.

[tpir]

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Should I be raising 4th or 5th street here? And what would your thought process be behind raising either street? Tx.

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Just do some twodimes sims on it... another A is dead already so on 4th street you are a pretty decent-sized favorite giving him a modest range of hands.

[adanthar]

I would raise fourth and push your edge (you have the second nuts, and whatever he has, it's not A2), I would probably raise fifth (you're not behind that often and when you are, all your outs are live), and with your board looking like an ugly seven low, I would go for a CR on sixth.

[Xellos]

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I would raise fourth and push your edge (you have the second nuts, and whatever he has, it's not A2), I would probably raise fifth (you're not behind that often and when you are, all your outs are live), and with your board looking like an ugly seven low, I would go for a CR on sixth.

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I'm a nit, he doesn't have the second nuts on 4th.

[adanthar]

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I would raise fourth and push your edge (you have the second nuts, and whatever he has, it's not A2), I would probably raise fifth (you're not behind that often and when you are, all your outs are live), and with your board looking like an ugly seven low, I would go for a CR on sixth.

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I'm a nit, he doesn't have the second nuts on 4th.

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nit [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

What's the stud term for 'your opponent can beat you with one hand'?

[Xellos]

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I would raise fourth and push your edge (you have the second nuts, and whatever he has, it's not A2), I would probably raise fifth (you're not behind that often and when you are, all your outs are live), and with your board looking like an ugly seven low, I would go for a CR on sixth.

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I'm a nit, he doesn't have the second nuts on 4th.

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What's the stud term for 'your opponent can beat you with one hand'?

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I didn't look at it that way. I suppose he does have the second nuts given the opponent's possible holdings.

As for the actual hand, I would have raised 5th probably. Might have waited for 6th, unfortunately you caught really well so he didn't bet again. I don't raise 4th just because I almost never raise 4th.