Preflop Poll

[veganmav]

QJoffsuit UTG in 6 handed, with average lineup.

A9offsuit UTG in 6 handed with average lineup.

[The Bryce]

I think I can see what you're getting at here. This might surprise you:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,746,550,080 games 2.406 secs 725,914,413 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 31.9427 % 30.32% 01.62% { A9o }
Hand 2: 68.0573 % 66.43% 01.62% { 99+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }


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1,767,097,728 games 2.656 secs 665,322,939 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 29.1535 % 28.61% 00.54% { QJo }
Hand 2: 70.8465 % 70.30% 00.54% { 99+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }


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Given that we have position and showdown value against the blinds with A9 it's a much more powerful hand than QJ.

[veganmav]

I think raising both of these is -EV.

Does anyone want to disagree?

[sublime]

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I think raising both of these is -EV.

Does anyone want to disagree?

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i fold both here myself.

[sweetjazz]

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I think raising both of these is -EV.

Does anyone want to disagree?

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Sure, I'll disagree. If the game is sufficiently soft, I think these hands are playable. If the line up is average (say one fairly soft spot, one other tight but poor postflop player and three other good players), then fold sounds right.

[mcvalenc]

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I think raising both of these is -EV.

Does anyone want to disagree?

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i fold both here myself.

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Me too.

[The Bryce]

I tried to ask my database if I was a lifetime winner raising A9o 3 OTB (I mostly have) and it crashed. I'll try again later when I'm not running anything else.

[helpmeout]

i raise both and win with both

[mmcd]

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i raise both and win with both

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[veganmav]

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i raise both and win with both

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I doubt your sample size is big enough. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]