Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > High Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-18-2006, 05:30 PM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: i ain\'t got my taco
Posts: 4,497
Default This might be my ugliest check/raise ever

Villain is lastlazygun, a very aggressive player who pops me constantly and I've been popping him, but we haven't seen many pots get past the turn.

He timed down for forever before betting the river. So lay it on me: he never folds KK or AA after betting so big right?
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $70</font>, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $266</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls, CO folds.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($632, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $399</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1430, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1430, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $1444</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $2499.5</font>
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-18-2006, 05:44 PM
donkey donkey is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 738
Default Re: This might be my ugliest check/raise ever

i doubt he has AA or KK, looks more like AsKs or a bluff.
with that little behind i'd either call or fold
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-18-2006, 05:56 PM
wizardplow wizardplow is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 198
Default Re: This might be my ugliest check/raise ever

I don't get it. Why do you check the turn, and then bet the river big, when a draw hits. I think you should have bet the turn huge and called a shove. As far as the river, you have to be beat by some sort of flush, I doubt it's a bluff.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-18-2006, 05:59 PM
9cao 9cao is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 878
Default Re: This might be my ugliest check/raise ever

Yes it is very ugly. With the odds you laid no better hand is folding, no worse hand is calling. Looks like a flush to me.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-18-2006, 06:35 PM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: i ain\'t got my taco
Posts: 4,497
Default Re: This might be my ugliest check/raise ever

[ QUOTE ]
Yes it is very ugly. With the odds you laid no better hand is folding, no worse hand is calling. Looks like a flush to me.

[/ QUOTE ]

Nah. Guy thought for 5, 10 seconds and folded.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-18-2006, 06:36 PM
Jason Strasser (strassa2) Jason Strasser (strassa2) is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: durham
Posts: 4,912
Default Re: This might be my ugliest check/raise ever

If this is a bluff i hate it.

If this is for value I also hate it.

DID YOU NOT LEARN ANYTHING THIS SUMMER.. PEP TALK?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-18-2006, 06:53 PM
9cao 9cao is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 878
Default Re: This might be my ugliest check/raise ever

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Yes it is very ugly. With the odds you laid no better hand is folding, no worse hand is calling. Looks like a flush to me.

[/ QUOTE ]

Nah. Guy thought for 5, 10 seconds and folded.

[/ QUOTE ]

Just because he folded that doesn't make it right. Did he show you a better hand than QQ? Even if he did I still think it is wrong since AA/KK/2-pair will almost never over-bet there based on that action and no way any sane person plays a set like that, and even if they tough to fold getting 5.5-1.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-18-2006, 07:36 PM
Prevaricator Prevaricator is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Amherst, MA
Posts: 2,352
Default Re: This might be my ugliest check/raise ever

he will fold AA/KK. I just dont think he has those that often. looks more like 99 to me. or a flush. or air.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-18-2006, 07:49 PM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: i ain\'t got my taco
Posts: 4,497
Default Re: This might be my ugliest check/raise ever

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Yes it is very ugly. With the odds you laid no better hand is folding, no worse hand is calling. Looks like a flush to me.

[/ QUOTE ]

Nah. Guy thought for 5, 10 seconds and folded.

[/ QUOTE ]

Just because he folded that doesn't make it right.

[/ QUOTE ]

I obviously don't think that it does, I was responding to your "looks like a flush to me." If I thought that him folding made my play good I wouldn't have posted it.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-18-2006, 07:50 PM
FoxwoodsFiend FoxwoodsFiend is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: i ain\'t got my taco
Posts: 4,497
Default Re: This might be my ugliest check/raise ever

[ QUOTE ]
he will fold AA/KK. I just dont think he has those that often. looks more like 99 to me. or a flush. or air.

[/ QUOTE ]

You think he'll fold AA/KK? I kinda thought he would also and based on how long he thought before betting I figured he a) didn't have a monster and b)was worried about me hitting that board.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.