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[FieryJustice]

Guy is known to make plays...

NL Texas Hold'em 215 Buy-in Trny:27423748 Level:2 Blinds(30/60) - Tuesday, August 15, 19:15:44 ET 2006
Table Speed (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 3: gormos ( 2260 )
Seat 9: KamikazeKenn ( 2450 )
Seat 7: bigandrichOR ( 2400 )
Seat 2: dejenerate1 ( 2710 )
Seat 1: ilya0 ( 1730 )
Seat 5: acequeen112 ( 3030 )
Seat 4: beetyjoose ( 3510 )
Seat 10: woodchopVI ( 1910 )
Trny:27423748 Level:2
Blinds(30/60)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to gormos [ Qs Kc ]
bigandrichOR calls [60].
KamikazeKenn folds.
woodchopVI folds.
ilya0 calls [60].
dejenerate1 folds.
gormos calls [60].
beetyjoose calls [30].
acequeen112 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, Qd, 4d ]
beetyjoose checks.
acequeen112 checks.
bigandrichOR checks.
ilya0 checks.
gormos bets [225].
beetyjoose raises [725].
acequeen112 folds.
bigandrichOR folds.
ilya0 folds.
gormos....???

[Indiana]

[ QUOTE ]
Guy is known to make plays...

NL Texas Hold'em 215 Buy-in Trny:27423748 Level:2 Blinds(30/60) - Tuesday, August 15, 19:15:44 ET 2006
Table Speed (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 3: gormos ( 2260 )
Seat 9: KamikazeKenn ( 2450 )
Seat 7: bigandrichOR ( 2400 )
Seat 2: dejenerate1 ( 2710 )
Seat 1: ilya0 ( 1730 )
Seat 5: acequeen112 ( 3030 )
Seat 4: beetyjoose ( 3510 )
Seat 10: woodchopVI ( 1910 )
Trny:27423748 Level:2
Blinds(30/60)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to gormos [ Qs Kc ]
bigandrichOR calls [60].
KamikazeKenn folds.
woodchopVI folds.
ilya0 calls [60].
dejenerate1 folds.
gormos calls [60].
beetyjoose calls [30].
acequeen112 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, Qd, 4d ]
beetyjoose checks.
acequeen112 checks.
bigandrichOR checks.
ilya0 checks.
gormos bets [225].
beetyjoose raises [725].
acequeen112 folds.
bigandrichOR folds.
ilya0 folds.
gormos....???

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enough players took the flop here to make me fold. I'm not as good as you but I can't see a way to do anything but fold. What have you specifically seen this guy do to convince u he could be bluffing?

Indy

[durron597]

I would raise preflop for value on the button

[FieryJustice]

notes just said he can raise over limps in early levels and fold to push.

[Indiana]

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I would raise preflop for value on the button

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I actually love this line. It makes the hand so much easier to play when the blinds get out early.

Indy

[curtains]

I would usually fold to that raise, he's got 3 guys behind you to worry about too.

I would never raise preflop in a million years.

Also FJ when did you start calling with such hands, I remember you folding KQs in SB [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Sabrazack]

He's gotta be pretty ballsy to make a move on you in a 5 way pot. Theres always the chance that someone is going for a check raise right? Also, how well does he know you?

Will you ever bluff after it is checked through to you here? Will you bet with a 3 or 4? Does he know this?

Guess it all comes down to how often he is pulling an insane stunt here.

Cliff Notes: I probably fold

[Indiana]

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I would usually fold to that raise, he's got 3 guys behind you to worry about too.

I would never raise preflop in a million years.

Also FJ when did you start calling with such hands, I remember you folding KQs in SB [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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If you don't raise preflop you will have to fold post flop in many situations if somebody puts the heat on you. the only flops where there will be huge bank involved that you don't have to fold are like >25:1 long shots.

Indy

[durron597]

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I would usually fold to that raise, he's got 3 guys behind you to worry about too.


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This is why I raise preflop IN POSITION.

Curtains, if I was playing as many tables as you I would fold preflop.

[Sabrazack]

I would be pretty content with winning just what's in the pot right now actually. Yes, it's not a huge amount of chips, but you risk very few chips to win them.

And when someone puts the heat on in a 5 way pot, you will very very often be beat with tp2k, right?