10/20 Coached Hand

BigHef · #1 01-22-2006, 08:31 AM

So after reading Krishan's review of elindauer's coaching I jumped in to see what he could help me with. He suggested the following hand would be good to post on here to get some opinions, namely on betting out on the flop as opposed to checkraising or even waiting to see a turn, and also on a possible river bet. Very interesting hand.

BTW, I was also impressed with Eric's coaching ability, and would happily endorse him to anybody considering a coaching session.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, MP calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP calls, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls.

River: (14.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks

krishan · #2 01-22-2006, 08:37 AM

edit the hand so the action ends after you check.

BigHef · #3 01-22-2006, 08:55 AM

Cheers done

Keepitsimple · #4 01-22-2006, 09:02 AM

I would probably bet/fold that river. There are so many people that noone will raise a hand you beat.

Dan BRIGHT · #5 01-22-2006, 09:35 AM

the pot is a little big for bet-fold in an internet game dont you think? What other hands are you really that worried about besides the flush?

Bet-call seems more appropriate for the pot size.

Keepitsimple · #6 01-22-2006, 10:04 AM

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the pot is a little big for bet-fold in an internet game dont you think? What other hands are you really that worried about besides the flush?

Bet-call seems more appropriate for the pot size.

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No other hand. But since the flush got there all other possible raising hands that you beat, like low two pairs wont raise. The only hands that will raise are air and flush imo. And we can discount air in a 4 way pot.

Haupt_234 · #7 01-22-2006, 06:26 PM

I would bet/call. Pot is too big to bet/fold and checking here loses us too many bets since we are ahead a majority of the time.

Haupt_234

whodaman · #8 01-22-2006, 07:38 PM

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I would bet/call. Pot is too big to bet/fold and checking here loses us too many bets since we are ahead a majority of the time.

Haupt_234

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Nietzsche · #9 01-22-2006, 08:20 PM

I like checkraising the flop (for value, not protection) and bet/fold on the river. If you are raised on the river you are beat often enough even here IMO unless you have a definite read that says otherwise.