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Old 07-30-2006, 03:15 PM
godgiven godgiven is offline
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Default Standard line for TPTK?

Villain is 50/0/0.4 after 70 hands. My main question is would you fold this river unimproved?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB.

Edit: his AF is 0.4
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Old 07-30-2006, 03:20 PM
btspider btspider is offline
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Default Re: Standard line for TPTK?

if those stats are after two hands, i'm definitely calling this down [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-30-2006, 04:48 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: Standard line for TPTK?

I would play it the same. His AF says he probably has you beat, but in order for me to make this big of a fold I need a combination of reads. For instance, in your hand If I had this stat read combined with a real read that this guy doesnt raise the turn without 2pair or better, then I would fold the turn.
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Old 07-30-2006, 04:51 PM
BostonMetro BostonMetro is offline
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Default Re: Standard line for TPTK?

AJ and AT are possible. Also, he raised the turn so A2 is possible. You had a lot of outs to beat A2 outright because your kicker is bigger that the queen. Again, on the end, AJ and AT are probably enough to make you good 10% of the time. Probably just a tough beat.
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Old 07-30-2006, 05:19 PM
PokerSparky PokerSparky is offline
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Default Re: Standard line for TPTK?

It doesn't look good for you, but I call the river. I leave these river folds for the "expert" players to make.
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Old 07-30-2006, 06:24 PM
jrz1972 jrz1972 is offline
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Default Re: Standard line for TPTK?

100% standard. I would need a really strong read to do anything different.
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Old 07-30-2006, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: Standard line for TPTK?

The reason I asked this question is my WTSD is around 30.5% and I'm trying to figure out where my leaks are. I played about 1000 hands today with a WTSD of 38% and I rocked the tables. It's amazing how many time I would get raised out of nowhere on the turn or river, call down, and find my opponent holding garbage. Newbies beware, dont fold too much on the river!
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Old 07-31-2006, 07:53 AM
emKay emKay is offline
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Default Re: Standard line for TPTK?

Im getting raised in these situations on the turn a hell of a lot and villain is *always* holding A2, A5. I call down and hate me for it.
We're getting 4:1 effective odds on that calldown. I think with a bit of a read that this calling station isnt pulling any frisky moves you really should fold it.
Anyways Id call that down here while squeezing my PokerStars stress star like hell.
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