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Old 07-26-2006, 02:30 AM
yeedog yeedog is offline
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Default Made a set facing a strange reraise...

SB is very agressive but has only showed down good hands and I guess can get away when neccessary as he has folded when facing a reraise.

What would you do here as I didn't expect to see the hand he had, but after thinking about it after the fact it does make sence i guess.



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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($19.55)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($14.10)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($8.35)</font>
UTG ($10)
MP ($7.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.10, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.3</font>, UTG calls $0.30, Button calls $0.30, SB calls $0.30.

Turn: ($1.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.3</font>, UTG folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $3.3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero???</font>
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:43 AM
The White Rabbit The White Rabbit is offline
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Default Re: Made a set facing a strange reraise...

A set is when you use both of your hole cards to make 3 of a kind (22 on a 2KJ board), in this situation you have trips, which is a much weaker hand because it's way less concealed and your opponents might have trips with a better kicker or a boat.

Given your read I can find a fold here, but I don't mind a call. When he pushes the river it's an easy fold.

Also reload (make sure you always have at least the max buy-in).
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Old 07-26-2006, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: Made a set facing a strange reraise...

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A set is when you use both of your hole cards to make 3 of a kind (22 on a 2KJ board), in this situation you have trips, which is a much weaker hand because it's way less concealed and your opponents might have trips with a better kicker or a boat.

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Ahh thanks for the clarifaction. I didn't realize there was a difference between set and trips and thought they could be used interchangably.

So a call was OK? I figured he was trying to bluff since i couldn't see how a 2 helps him at that time, but really didn't know. I thought about a reraise but figured i'm only called if i'm beat.

thanks for the reply.
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Old 07-26-2006, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: Made a set facing a strange reraise...

what TWR said is pretty on point, but it's worth adding that his raise doesn't necessarily say "the 2 helped me." on these kinds of boards it's often a slowplayed 6.

i'm probably not looking to get away here, even if his hand looks like a 6. most 6x hands are 64, 65, 67, 68, A6. you beat four of those. he plays all of these like the nuts so you can't reliably tell the difference.

EDIT: oh, noticed he was SB, so he can really have pretty much any 6x since i imagine people complete ATC in the SB at these stakes. given that, a fold isn't awful at some point following the raise.
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Old 07-26-2006, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: Made a set facing a strange reraise...

well since there are no more replys i'll post the results if anybody really cares...

I called the turn raise and got a 9 on the rivier. SB had pocket 2's for the full house but I had the better full house by hitting the 9. He went all in on the rivier and I called.
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Old 07-26-2006, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: Made a set facing a strange reraise...

This is 5 handed. I don't see why anyone would want to fold trips in this situation. If I were in this hand at .05/.10 I am pushing the turn and making him show down the best hand. A weaker trips could very well be in the sb.
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Old 07-26-2006, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: Made a set facing a strange reraise...

If I have a read that he's solid I fold the turn. Trips No Kicker = weak hand. Everyone can see the trips.
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Old 07-26-2006, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Made a set facing a strange reraise...

Your kicker is not that bad here. Most probable hands with a 6 in are hands like 65/76.
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Old 07-26-2006, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Made a set facing a strange reraise...

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This is 5 handed. I don't see why anyone would want to fold trips in this situation.

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Okay, I read this kind of thing a lot here now. This logic is wrong. I see things like "oh, it's ONLY 25nl, no way you should fold that," or in this case "it's shorthanded, so...."

I'm not trying to call out the guy that said this individually, and I'm certainly not a NL expert, but this kind of logic is simply wrong. I have a problem with the logic itself, not anyone in particular.

If you have a read on someone, you should take that into consideration in the context of the game you are playing. The game contexts should not determine your action in and of themselves. "It's shorthanded, so you should call," or "it's xxNL so folding is out of the question" are blatantly wrongheaded.

I am not commenting of the hand itself in any way. This is, again, a general observation, and not meant as a slight against anyone.
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