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07-24-2006, 08:36 AM
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call down with JJ after flop?
Should I call down here? Both villain's are quite tight so I suspect they have pocket pairs or overcards but this is TT+ and KQ+
Poker Stars Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $1/$2 8 players Converter Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10.5SB, 3 players) MP2 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, Button calls. Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8.75BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets</font>, Button calls. River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (10.75BB, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, MP2 calls. Results: Final pot: 14.75BB 
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#3
07-24-2006, 08:48 AM
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Re: call down with JJ after flop?
I don't know that I'd auto-calldown, but I'd call the flop and maybe check/fold the turn... especially if it's 2 back to me.
You might get better responses if you had ended the action with your choice on the flop.
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#5
07-24-2006, 09:06 AM
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Re: call down with JJ after flop?
I call the flop.
I think it's at least reasonably likely that AA-QQ would have capped pre-flop. So even though they are possible, they aren't as likely as when you face a pre-flop cap. I could see TT (or another middle pair) playing that flop this way. I could also see a nut flush draw playing it this way. I'd call down unless another scare card came up.
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#6
07-24-2006, 09:09 AM
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Re: call down with JJ after flop?
The only thing I'm thinking when I see this action on the flop is that I wouldn't expect anyone here to have a 9. A 9 would wait for the turn to raise, especially with the pre-flop action.
The c/r by MP2 could be a flush-draw, and button probably has the overpair. Basically they haven't convinced me yet that they have hands better than mine. The turn w/MP2 could be AJ of clubs, so now he made his top-pair and can bet out again, he's got great equity. I'm getting to the point where I really don't trust flop action very much.
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