215 - Nice flop, now what?

WebGuySteve · #1 07-20-2006, 02:58 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t60 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t4430)
UTG+1 (t2160)
MP1 (t2020)
MP2 (t2265)
MP3 (t1360)
CO (t1845)
Button (t2140)
Hero (t1860)
BB (t1920)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t60, 1 fold, MP2 calls t60, MP3 calls t60, CO calls t60, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB raises to t120, UTG+1 calls t60, MP2 calls t60, MP3 calls t60, CO folds, Hero calls t60.

Flop: (t660) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets t200, Hero calls t200, BB calls t200, UTG+1 calls t200, MP2 folds.

Turn: (t1460) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets t324, Hero folds

What do you guys think?

It's pretty early in the sng so i don't really have any reads on anyone. And these guys are all unknowns to me.

Post away, I'll post my thoughts on this later.

AMT · #2 07-20-2006, 03:04 PM

im fairly certain this is ok.

Jay Riall · #3 07-20-2006, 03:07 PM

I'd fold preflop both time personally. All those people still in there by the turn the fold has got to be good.

FoldYourLife · #4 07-20-2006, 03:08 PM

With all of those other calls, I think the other A is out there. MP3 is playing the hand like a monster as well. He is leading the turn and you have several players left to act behind you. Good fold.
I should also chime in and say that folding PF is the correct play.

Jay Riall · #5 07-20-2006, 03:10 PM

Lol at the CO limping initially and the folding to the minraise, getting like 11-1 on his money.

durron597 · #6 07-20-2006, 03:21 PM

This fold sucks. It's a <1/4 pot bet where you chop a ton of the time even if you are behind, thus you are getting 3:1 on your money even if you do expect to chop. It could also be a scared king trying to get a cheap showdown.

ryanghall · #7 07-20-2006, 03:25 PM

I muck this preflop and now you know why. You can flop TRIPS and still think you're beat.

Ryan

WebGuySteve · #8 07-20-2006, 03:37 PM

I think we need to be wary of the 2 others left in this pot. I also think the scared K argument is poor. If he was scared, why would he bet when he's last to act? Why wouldn't he just check behind and hope for a cheaper showdown rather than bloat the pot on the turn?

durron597 · #9 07-20-2006, 03:56 PM

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I think we need to be wary of the 2 others left in this pot. I also think the scared K argument is poor. If he was scared, why would he bet when he's last to act? Why wouldn't he just check behind and hope for a cheaper showdown rather than bloat the pot on the turn?

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Betting the turn is how he GETS his cheap showdown! He hopes everyone will be afraid he's valubetting a weak ace so they will check to him on the river. Otherwise someone might make a much larger bet on the river he will have to fold to.

AMT · #10 07-20-2006, 03:56 PM

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I think we need to be wary of the 2 others left in this pot. I also think the scared K argument is poor. If he was scared, why would he bet when he's last to act? Why wouldn't he just check behind and hope for a cheaper showdown rather than bloat the pot on the turn?

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yeah i didnt think people made plays with a K here in a HUGE multi way pot (like 6 players is it?) i guess the argument for a chop is reasonable and youre boat outs but...