Hate it or love it PS 4/180

shaundeeb · #1 07-11-2006, 06:23 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 (t1120)
MP1 (t1980)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1430)
CO (t1450)
Button (t1520)
SB (t4970)
Hero (t1500)
UTG (t1460)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, MP1 raises to t40, 1 fold, MP3 calls t40, 2 folds, SB calls t30, Hero calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20.

Flop: (t200) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t40, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t40, MP3 calls t40, SB calls t40.

Turn: (t360) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, MP1 calls t300, MP3 folds, SB folds.

River: (t960) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Hero checks.

Lloyd · #2 07-11-2006, 06:25 PM

Oh boy. Be gentle folks.

shaundeeb · #3 07-11-2006, 06:26 PM

it looks very ugly at first glance I know but some streets aren't have some merit or so I thought at the time.

illini43 · #4 07-11-2006, 06:50 PM

Preflop: Fine. Your getting 8:1 to call.

Flop: What is this? Why would you bet this little here? You are beat by any 33,55+,56+,Q2+ and you have 4 other players still alive in the hand, yet you bet 40, giving anyone 6:1 odds????

Turn: Why bet so much now on the turn when a 4 comes off? If anyone is calling you they have a hand like QT+ or a set. If anything you should go for a check raise and induce a bet from someone behind you. If you want to bet bet a smaller amount (120-180) to get some money in the pot.

River: Why bet the turn and check on the river when you fill up? If the opponent has a Q, and has called you the whole way, he is going to call another bet on the river. If you are trying to induce a bluff, you are betting off making more $ by value betting instead of hoping your lone opponent erraticly bets.

2Fast · #5 07-11-2006, 07:11 PM

ok - I haven't read other responses yet - but ARGHHHHHHHH I HATE IT!!!! (Sorry to be so rude!).

WTF on the river?

The inital BB call is fine. The probe bet on flop is too small and I would make it at least 1/2 pot or 100-150 to go. I actually probably bet less on turn say 2/3 pot but you have to bet on the river - at least 1/2 pot. Hopefully he'll push. After firing three bullets what did you think he would do or what he was playing from MP? Q4o?

Supesimmo · #6 07-11-2006, 07:27 PM

Always value bet river with a big hand in 4/180's

You'll get a call from any queen

nath · #7 07-11-2006, 07:32 PM

flop sucks, turn is ok, why in god's name would you check the river, do you really expect someone to bet after you've taken the lead twice?

Induce_You · #8 07-11-2006, 07:32 PM

i play a lot of these but man they can be frustrating when you r top set lose to runner runner straight.+these are complete donkey-fests in the early stages.

2Fast · #9 07-11-2006, 07:34 PM

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i play a lot of these but man they can be frustrating when you r top set lose to runner runner straight.+these are complete donkey-fests in the early stages.

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re-read......he filled up his boat on the river

nath · #10 07-11-2006, 07:40 PM

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i play a lot of these but man they can be frustrating when you r top set lose to runner runner straight.+these are complete donkey-fests in the early stages.

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Did you read the hand, or did you just read the subject line and assume it was a question about what people thought about the 4/180s?