50nl 6m - AA vs raise postflop

Whisper · #1 07-08-2006, 10:03 PM

What do you make of this raise, and whats your play?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($12.94)
SB ($48.60)
Hero ($50.05)
UTG ($80.80)
MP ($36.62)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $2, UTG calls $2, SB folds.

Flop: ($5.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $4, UTG raises to $12

Rancid · #2 07-08-2006, 11:06 PM

Re-raise to see where you are. I would be scared of KJ for a call and call of a raise of that size.

Iconoclastic · #3 07-08-2006, 11:08 PM

Without reads, his raise could mean anything, from "take that continuation bet and shove it" to "let me find out where I'm at" to "TPTK" to "set" to "two pair", and all the other possibilities. But you have AA and you're ahead of a raising range but there are lots of possible draws out there too so raise pot, to about all in.

scorer · #4 07-08-2006, 11:30 PM

This can be anything against you, 2 pair straight draw etc. re raising is a good recommendation

BalugaWhale · #5 07-08-2006, 11:50 PM

Call and c/r all in on the turn is best IMO

3bet pushing is okay too... on this board, KJ probably takes my money.

mattnxtc · #6 07-09-2006, 12:10 AM

i probably just push it here...get it in so you arent scared on the turn

Fredrik · #7 07-09-2006, 10:00 AM

Microlimits, but eerily similar:

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.02/$0.05
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $9.91
UTG+1: $5.08
CO: $3
Button: $3.55
SB: $5.36
BB: $2.26

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $0.25, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.57, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.6, UTG+1 raises all-in $4.83, Hero calls.

I had made so many cont-bets so I figured super-aggressive Villain thought I had missed the flop... Not that reads are important in a game where people are willing to risk their stack with middle pair, no kicker on a board with all kinds of monster possibilities.

n1nj4.br · #8 07-09-2006, 10:14 AM

i'm pushing flop.

calc · #9 07-09-2006, 10:21 AM

anyone who raises $12 to "see where they are" with a $50 stack will not last long.

You are out of position and therefore cannot call. It is entirely believable you have at least a pair of kings. At small limits I find a large reraise on a flop with a flush draw means that person is afraid of the flush most times. There are a lot of hands he could have limp called with preflop that now have you soundly beaten, and even if he has a hand like 10 J clubs he has a lot of outs.

I would tend to fold in the absence of any reads. I think he flopped a monster and is trying to get your stack.

n1nj4.br · #10 07-09-2006, 10:27 AM

hehe, he will do it with a lot of stuff that we beat. Folding here is so wrong calc.