This turn helped me

#1 06-07-2006, 03:10 PM

Villian is a nit. Something like 12/5 over a few thousand hands. He's probably got a strong hand here.

Comments on all streets appreciated.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB ($2451)
UTG ($2207)
Hero ($2030)
MP1 ($2557)
MP2 ($1379)
CO ($2509)
Button ($2294)
SB ($4265.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
1 fold, Hero raises to $66, MP1 calls $66, MP2 calls $66, 4 folds.

Flop: ($228) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $180, MP1 raises to $390, MP2 folds, Hero calls $210.

Turn: ($1008) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero calls $1574 (All-In), MP1 calls $1574.

meleader2 · #2 06-07-2006, 03:17 PM

y r u constantly out of position on all these hands? all of your decisions would be phenominally easier if u did this late.

i like to check/call the flop, lead the turn.

AZK · #3 06-07-2006, 04:11 PM

when you make plays like this on the turn, i can't help but think they are so blindingly obvious DRAW. Would you ever play 222 this way? or 85 or whatever

#4 06-07-2006, 04:38 PM

No, I wouldn't AZK

But pushing turn is better than checking and calling cuz I at least have a slight chance of making him fold a better hand and at this point I have enough equity to check and call a push (right?)

Flop cbet is questionable considering how drawy it is and how likely it is I will be raised/floated. Gotta call his stupid minraise though rather than push, right?

Dan BRIGHT · #5 06-07-2006, 04:39 PM

isnt your af like 6?

Roman · #6 06-07-2006, 04:41 PM

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at this point I have enough equity to check and call a push (right?)

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I think you are about 30% to win, so u need ~2:1 to call a push, so it looks like you dont have enough equity here.

KingNeo · #7 06-07-2006, 04:41 PM

Isn't his preflop and flop play screaming he has a set?

AZK · #8 06-07-2006, 04:45 PM

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No, I wouldn't AZK

But pushing turn is better than checking and calling cuz I at least have a slight chance of making him fold a better hand

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If he knows you would never do this with a made hand then he will never fold a better hand since he knows he is never behind, so how do you have FE?

mperich · #9 06-07-2006, 04:47 PM

Your FE is near 0 against a villain this tight raising the flop. Its doubtful he plays draws this fast, especially multiway. As Neo said, he has a set here very often. So basically you are charging urself the absolute maximum for your draw. If you check there is almost no chance the guy charges you this much. Check calling is fine, he will probably bet like 3/4 of the pot which you can call, and theres no way he gets away from any river that hits you

-Mike

billyjex · #10 06-07-2006, 05:54 PM

This sucks. Check turn, evaluate based on if you are getting implied odds for 13 outs.