AA in SB, flop play

Mauau · #1 05-31-2006, 09:18 AM

Villain is a big winner on this level. He is capable of con-betting both flop and turn with air. I have called him down with AA in the BB a couple of days earlier knowing this. I have also seen him call big preflop raises with SD in position if the pot is at least three-handed. If he doesn't have a draw he plays pretty much a raise/fold game. (I believe he can raise draws too of course.) His numbers: 16/8/2.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($312.02)
BB ($195)
UTG ($140.91)
UTG+1 ($283.64)
MP1 ($258.46)
MP2 ($279.75)
CO ($101.45)
Button ($450.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, A

. Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, 3 folds, Button calls $2, Hero (poster) raises to $11, 1 fold, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $10, Button calls $10.

Flop: ($40) 2

, 2

, J

3 players)
Hero bets $25, UTG+1 folds, Button raises to $50.

What to do now?

gutter · #2 05-31-2006, 09:31 AM

With three limpers to me and OOP I would have raised more PF, maybe 15-20. Only hands that beat you are one with a 2 or JJ. I cant see a solid player limping from EP with either of those hands. I think he has medium pockets ot AJ. I would make it $150 and push any turn card.

jacknine · #3 05-31-2006, 09:33 AM

Gutter's post said exactly what mine said so I removed it.
The only difference was that where he said "make it $150", I said "Shove it allin!" I like his line better.

Mauau · #4 05-31-2006, 09:46 AM

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With three limpers to me and OOP I would have raised more PF, maybe 15-20.

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I hear you, it's tricky to calculate the perfect amount to bet here. I try to keep in mind that AA still dominates any two hands. And even if the EPs folds, B might feel he is priced in for 10 in a 20-pot.

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Only hands that beat you are one with a 2 or JJ. I cant see a solid player limping from EP with either of those hands. I think he has medium pockets ot AJ. I would make it $150 and push any turn card.

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Villain is on the button, not in early position.

gutter · #5 05-31-2006, 10:01 AM

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Villain is on the button, not in early position.

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My bad, I still play it the same though.

Kilillan · #6 05-31-2006, 10:04 AM

I call and checkraise any non-jack turn allin

Mauau · #7 05-31-2006, 01:17 PM

OK. Here is the rest:
Hero calls $25.

Turn: ($140) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $45, Hero calls $45.

River: ($230) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $100, Hero calls $100.

Button shows [ 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] a full house, Twos full of threes.
Hero doesn't show [ A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ] two pairs, aces and twos.

Final Pot: $430

Now, should I be...

a) happy because I didn't lose that last $100?

b) disappointed at myself because I should have understood that villain's hand contained a deuce after the way he played it? (He is, IMO, too good to be overplaying AJ like this.)

c) thinking that it would be too weak/tight to fold it?

younghov17 · #8 05-31-2006, 01:21 PM

i would have raised more preflop, after that turn raise im calling, not because im scared but because i would be looking to get more out of him. im not afraid of him drawing out on me because he has at most 2 outs if he doesnt have a 2x or jj hand. im check raising turn because he is definitly betting after raising flop. even tho he had the 2 this hand id still play it exactly the same way every time.