can ribbo fold mid set?

[jeffman]

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($222.65)
UTG ($210.90)
MP ($1062.30)
CO ($121.45)
Button ($106.30)
SB ($274.90)

UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($8) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $25.6</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP calls $19.60.

Turn: ($59.20) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $56.3</font>, MP calls $56.30.

River: ($171.80) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $100</font>, SB calls $100.

Final Pot: $371.80


MP showed [3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] and won ($368.80) with a straight, Ace to Five
SB mucked [9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]

I was loafing around recently looking at 1/2 and i saw ribs play this hand. Is it usually good to pay off 100 dollars on river with a hand this weak.
Thanks for the imput

[joewatch]

I don't think this hand was played badly by anyway except the MP. Ribbo put him on a missed flush draw, so check-call on the river was the correct play.

[BluffTHIS!]

It was the correct play against an aggressive player known to bluff missed draws a certain percentage of the time. It would be the wrong play against more passive players or those who would only play with both a flush and straight draw here. The interesting question is whether ribb would have check/folded if the flush came and the guy bet a missed straight draw.

[iron81]

Just felt like posting this because its the rare situation in poker when you're drawing completely dead on the first betting round:

pokenum -mc 500000 -o 2c 2d 2h 2s - as ah kd qc
Omaha Hi: 500000 sampled boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
2s 2c 2d 2h 0 0.00 500000 100.00 0 0.00 0.000
As Qc Kd Ah 500000 100.00 0 0.00 0 0.00 1.000

[Ribbo]

As always, the correct answer is "it depends".
http://www.pokerhand.org/?345511
Should I fold the turn to a raise heads up against a loose aggressive player who clearly puts me on AA?
The great thing about poker which the original poster fails to understand, is that there is no problem about making a losing call, or folding a winning hand. The secret is to make sure other people do it more than you do. Indeed if every river call you make is a winner, then you're not calling enough.
Still i'm glad me losing a pot amuses you, because I've lost hundred's of thousands of dollars worth of pots on the river. Of course I've won twice as much as what i've lost, that's what makes me a good player.

[kolotoure]

The OP just got sonned

[jeffman]

Where did I say i had a problem with your hand Ribbo. I was curious to see if everyone else agreed with it that is all. The goal most 2+2 have is to make the best possible call against the villains range and I was only asking if you were doing that. I know you like to argue on the internet but I don't see why you start something where no one wants to argue with you.

[kurto]

can't check it. That's sad.

[RickyG]

There is a very good chance that ribbo played the hand 100% correctly. You saw the crap that the villain (or is it the hero?) in this hand was calling with. Assume you know that the opponent would call with any [censored] draw, (which is what he had in this hand), and would bet the river when checked to, regardless of whether he hit.

Also Jeffman, if you don't want to be accused of being an [censored], you should try less hard to format your posts to make you seem that way. Even if it is directed toward Ribbo

[RoundTower]

I think he played this hand well.