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Old 05-23-2006, 03:00 AM
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Default I am probably one of the worst 10/20 players this week

6-handed. I have logged a lot of hands with Villain, but no strong read. This means he's just another one of those multitabling straightforward TAG-type players. Stats around 27/15/4. He has 3250, I cover.

First two fold, I raise it to 80 with 99, folded to Villain in the SB who pops it to 240. I make it 750 straight and he calls. This 3-raise was pretty much a bluff. If he calls, I'm done unless I hit a set.

Flop KsQx9s. Obviously, I don't have a spade, but I figured I might as well make it clear. I hit my set, but if I get an action at all I'm probably behind. Horrible flop.

He checks. Should I just bet here and fold to a c/r? I was considering doing that, but I decided to check through and hit quads.

Turn 4s. I doubt the 3-flush matters since AsKs isn't possible. The only way I think it could be important is if he holds AsAx.

He bets 1200--half of his stack. Do I just jam the rest in here? I'm either drawing to one out or he has 11. Maybe I should just fold? I was strongly considering that too, but I'm playing really poorly as of late, and I called. Probably the worst move of the three.

River Ts. Now I lose to every single hand that I can imagine him having, except for AxAx. He bets the rest of his stack--1300 into a pot of 3900--and I fold getting 4:1 with a set in a 3-raised pot. This hand is a total trainwreck.
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Old 05-23-2006, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: I am probably one of the worst 10/20 players this week

total trainwreck...i could kinda see not getting it in on the flop but it's definitely going in on the turn, at the same time why can't he have AsQs here? Why do you think his 3betting range out of the blinds is so tight? ironically my 3betting range out of the blind is wider (i think) ?????
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Old 05-23-2006, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: I am probably one of the worst 10/20 players this week

I don't worry about getting undersetted very often and in a 3-bet (Or is it 4-bet) pot I would never worry about. AA and AK are more likely than KK/QQ IMO.
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Old 05-23-2006, 03:06 AM
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Default Re: I am probably one of the worst 10/20 players this week

why do you think this?
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Old 05-23-2006, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: I am probably one of the worst 10/20 players this week

I don't think his reraising standards are particularly tight, but I do believe his standards for calling a third raise are small and I really don't see AQs out of position for 500 more with only 3250 behind. The plan was to take it down preflop.
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Old 05-23-2006, 03:26 AM
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Default Re: I am probably one of the worst 10/20 players this week

He won't call all in on flop w/ AA?
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Old 05-23-2006, 03:32 AM
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Default Re: I am probably one of the worst 10/20 players this week

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He won't call all in on flop w/ AA?

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why should he? he basically beats a complete bluff
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Old 05-23-2006, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: I am probably one of the worst 10/20 players this week

If I get all-in on the flop, I'd guess that I'm behind at least 80% of the time.
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Old 05-23-2006, 05:52 AM
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Default Re: I am probably one of the worst 10/20 players this week

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He won't call all in on flop w/ AA?

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why should he? he basically beats a complete bluff

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so if the flop is KQ8 are u shoving to bluff out AA? cmon.
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Old 05-23-2006, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: I am probably one of the worst 10/20 players this week

not sure why you'd choose to bluff preflop w/a hand like 99 which is definitely +EV to play against most reraisers in this spot when you have 150bb+ stack and position (and presumably enough info about villain's range to think a 4bet is profitable). just call next time and 4bet him with j8s when his reraising range gets too broad given his folding freq.

post-flop, whatever. go broke or just bet and fold the flop. flop chk sucks. turn is raise or fold. you know this.
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