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Old 04-12-2007, 07:19 AM
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Default 2/4 Overpair facing turn overbet shove

Effective stacks $400, 6-handed:

Hero is BN with K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

3 folds, Hero raises to $14, SB folds, BB calls $10

Flop ($30) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB checks, Hero bets $24, BB raises to $75, Hero calls $51

Turn ($180) J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB shoves [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] 310 for Hero to call
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Overpair facing turn overbet shove

Difficult with no reads. Reads?
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:29 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Overpair facing turn overbet shove

Forgot to add, sorry. Villain is 23/19/4.5 over a small sample. He's checkraised me one or two times before on the flop. He probably sees me as TAG who plays very agressively from the button.
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Old 04-12-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Overpair facing turn overbet shove

folding time
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Old 04-12-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Overpair facing turn overbet shove

to those who say fold: wtf? the jack is a blank, minus JXc or J2/J3/J4, the first combo we need to call against and the later combos are very unlikely.

OP, once you call 51 more to see a turn, you need to realize he's threatening your stack, and cant be comfortable playing showdown poker (check check check check). This is a pretty easy call, at this point.

Your other options are to fold to the c/r (that can be ok) 3bet the flop (that can be ok) or check the flop (that can be ok). you took this line, so now you get to call the turn.
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Overpair facing turn overbet shove

My plan was to raise the turn allin but the overbet freaked me out. Only hands I can think of that I'm ahead of are QJcc and Axcc. 22-44 seem possible. I don't know whether he would 3bet those pf, according to his stats he probably will.
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:11 PM
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Please call his all in bet.
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Overpair facing turn overbet shove

just flip a coin
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Overpair facing turn overbet shove

"Your other options are to fold to the c/r (that can be ok)"

no way jose
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Overpair facing turn overbet shove

[ QUOTE ]
Effective stacks $400, 6-handed:

Hero is BN with K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

3 folds, Hero raises to $14, SB folds, BB calls $10

Flop ($30) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB checks, Hero bets $24, BB raises to $75, Hero calls $51

Turn ($180) J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB shoves [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] 310 for Hero to call

[/ QUOTE ]

A/3 if diamonds, or over pair thats not as good as kings. he could have set too.

I would fold and wait for better oppurtunity.
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