3/6 KK vs WiltOnTilt - Standard flop fold?

soon2b · #1 01-15-2007, 04:40 AM

Not too many reads. My reasoning for thinking this is a fold is this. Assuming he is a solid tag with a standard pf calling range, I am only beating QQ here. Losing to AA, JJ, TT. Think I can fold, no?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($641.85)
Hero ($609)
UTG ($784.65)
MP ($993.10)
CO ($1368.20)
Button ($585)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $24, 1 fold, CO calls $24, 2 folds, Hero raises to $105, UTG calls $81, CO folds.

Flop: ($237) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $165, UTG raises to $679.65, Hero calls $339 (All-In).

Turn: ($1420.65) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($1420.65) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $1420.65

wizardplow · #2 01-15-2007, 05:49 AM

no- you are virtually committed after your flop bet. If you were deeper, then folding would be fine.

DJ Sensei · #3 01-15-2007, 06:13 AM

kind of a paradoxical situation here:

if you bet this much on the flop, its so that you can fold to a shove, however, your odds are much better on a call because the pot is so big...

so, i dont like your flop bet size. can't tell you whether to fold or not without knowing him better.

LegallyBlind · #4 01-15-2007, 06:18 AM

id call here. but i don't see anything wrong with a fold. probably not a whole lot you can do wrong at this point.

Triumph36 · #5 01-15-2007, 01:17 PM

UTG vs BB, this is a spot where you can fold since unless Wilt's become braindead after the Party switch, he's not shoving here with QQ - so it's either a bluff, or a better hand.

But yeah, you bet too much to profit past the flop. Bet 110 and call or fold to a shove.

Weebl · #6 01-15-2007, 03:15 PM

Is checking behind on the flop a resonable option.

It seems we are getting all hands we beat to fold here except QQ.

Plan for turn would be call/bet any turn.

jsnipes28 · #7 01-15-2007, 03:38 PM

ur flop bet is too big. tho i am pretty sure u are crushed here. best case scenario he has AQ/AKcc. wilt is a nittttttttttttt