QQ with KJX flop

bober2 · #1 08-06-2007, 06:22 AM

Did i bet this ok, or should i be folding either pre-flop or an the flop bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($13.75)
CO ($9.95)
Button ($6.50)
SB ($9.95)
Hero ($21.95)
UTG ($10.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.6, Hero raises to $1.8, CO folds, SB raises to $6, Hero calls $4.20.

Flop: ($12.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $3.95 (All-In), Hero calls $3.95.

Turn: ($0) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($0) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $20

Slayer · #2 08-06-2007, 06:52 AM

I'm not sure... I think if you're going to commit to an all-in on the flop regardless of whether or not a king (or presumably an ace) is out there, you should just push preflop. I think I would have done that instead of calling the 3bet pf and letting a flop make you doubt your decision

Romanis · #3 08-06-2007, 07:01 AM

I'd push preflop. But I guess this is AA/KK often enough to consider folding(any reads/stats/seen him 4-betting before?). After you called you're committed, you can't really fold anymore.

Go_BroKe · #4 08-06-2007, 07:05 AM

it's readdepend, if you push/fold it preflop

Panic__NL · #5 08-06-2007, 08:25 AM

read dependend offcourse, without a read fold preflop. His range mainly consist out of AA and KK with an occasional AK.
Lets say he does this with KK+ and AKs. you are a huge dog so fold.

wslee00 · #6 08-06-2007, 10:54 AM

fold or all-in pf - ure committed anyway if you call.

w/o a read - definitely fold.

InsideEdge · #7 08-06-2007, 11:08 AM

push pf for sure.

I would never fold QQ pf at this level, just get them in.

hunt1897 · #8 08-06-2007, 11:29 AM

Only thing I see is you need to make decision pre-flop, when sb RR's, fold or push there. Very read dependent. When sb bets flop, he doesn't seem to be scared of much. Fold. People will tell you "you have odds, pot committed, trash like that" these statements simply are not true.

IMO.