200: 75s I just kinda stare at it

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I've not played with small blind much; however, the few hands I had on him he seems to be a standard 200 tag. The limper was a serious calling station.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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UTG ($103.70)
UTG+1 ($166.35)
MP1 ($36)
MP2 ($206.90)
MP3 ($181.65)
CO ($272.40)
Hero ($200.85)
SB ($177.05)
BB ($216.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $9</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($21) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $16</font>, Hero calls $16.

Turn: ($53) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $40</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $53

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Wouldn't play it any differently. I doubt if the third club falls that you'd get anything other than a value bet out of him. The only thing you could have done was to raise flop in case he has completely missed (which he may have done which is another reason to fold). Raise flop to 45. Often, that may get you to the river for cheap if villain tries to stick around. As played, good fold.

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Anyone for calling the turn?

[SABR42]

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Anyone for calling the turn?

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Meh, his stack is a little bit shallow. I'd fold.

I call here when I'm tilting and chasing losses though. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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What's villian's range what are our implied odds?

I think JJ+, A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], AQ

A few other possibilities if he is an aggressive player who might raise PF with QJ or KQ or the like.

Against JJ,QQ we have 7 outs

Against AA,KK we have 14 outs

Against A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] We're ahead, he has massive outs though

Against AQ we have 14 outs

I think after summing it up and accounting for the greater likely hood of AQ or AA,KK than QQ or JJ based solely on card combos, I think (just by feel) we have implied odds to call the bet and see what the river brings, it is fairly close though so a fold isn't insane...

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I wouldn't mind a call. It's tough though because 5's and 7's may not be clean outs and he may slow down with AA/KK on the river. What would be our plan for the river if we called the turn? Value bet if he checks and we make our hand? Fold if he check raises our value bet? Call a river lead if we complete? Shove a river lead?

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I wouldn't be calling the turn of only making the best hand and value betting. I think we could make TP and overpairs very uncomfortable if they check the river.

[SABR42]

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Bluffing the river on a blank would be horrible.

If the river is an offsuit 2 and he checks, he's planning to call almost always because every draw missed.

[threads13]

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I think we could make TP and overpairs very uncomfortable if they check the river.

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Bluffing the river on a blank would be horrible.

If the river is an offsuit 2 and he checks, he's planning to call almost always because every draw missed.

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I didn't say a blank.

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I didn't say a blank.

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Q or J then?