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Old 11-06-2007, 12:57 AM
LouisCyphre LouisCyphre is offline
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Default (NL600) AA faces huge all-in raise on the turn

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CO ($712.10)
Button ($479.10)
SB ($410)
BB ($352.80)
UTG(HERO) ($635.15)
UTG+1 ($675.35)
MP1 ($600)
MP2 ($967.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">HERO raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls $24, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($57) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">HERO bets $36</font>, CO calls $36.

Turn: ($129) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">HERO bets $75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $652.1</font>, HERO ???

Villain is 17/11/2/300
Hero is running at about 12/9/3

What is villain's range? Do you call? Would you call with less than AA?
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: (NL600) AA faces huge all-in raise on the turn

wow, given how tight both of you are i think i fold this pretty quickly
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: (NL600) AA faces huge all-in raise on the turn

bet more on the flop and turn

I fold here
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:08 PM
LouisCyphre LouisCyphre is offline
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Default Re: (NL600) AA faces huge all-in raise on the turn

What do you think villain is holding?
Do you really think that a what appears to be a TAG will play full house this way?
What is the worst hand you call with here?
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: (NL600) AA faces huge all-in raise on the turn

Flop bet should be liek 40-45 leading to a 120-135 turn bet.

as played I think you can fold the turn. Seems like you'll see a boat, flopped straight or something random like 34s every time.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: (NL600) AA faces huge all-in raise on the turn

easy fold. at the worst he has 34
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: (NL600) AA faces huge all-in raise on the turn

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What do you think villain is holding?
Do you really think that a what appears to be a TAG will play full house this way?
What is the worst hand you call with here?

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If you don't think he play that this way. What do you think he plays like this and that you are ahead of? I really doubt he does this with a draw.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: (NL600) AA faces huge all-in raise on the turn

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easy fold. at the worst he has 34

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I highly doubt he has 34 here
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:58 PM
LouisCyphre LouisCyphre is offline
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Default Re: (NL600) AA faces huge all-in raise on the turn

As an example, two hands I could see doing this that AA is ahead of are 9h8h and KK. Also the relatively small bets might have induced a bluff.
If the consensus is that you have to fold AA here, can't villain push the turn profitably with any 2 cards?
5 replies so far said fold, so it very well might be the correct play.

Hypothetical scenario:
How do you play this hand if villain raises to 225-250$, especially if villain pushes the river?
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: (NL600) AA faces huge all-in raise on the turn

lol at folding here.
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