NL50 KQ 2 pair line vs 3 flush flop

[bluffbetter]

Villain is 50/22.7/1.5 over 22 hands

My thoughts on this hand are that I needed to raise the flop because despite the small sample, this player is almost certainly a fish, and I think he may well have a bare ace or even jack or ten of spades here. And I'm also ahead of AK and KJ and KT suited with no flush draw, all of which I think are quite reasonable for him to have.

What do you think of this line? Does anyone play this really slowly, or is my line OK?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($51.85)
BB ($17.45)
UTG ($101.15)
MP ($63.10)
CO ($37.35)
Hero ($48.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($3.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8.5</font>, MP calls $6.50.

Turn: ($20.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $38.55</font>, MP calls $33.55.

River: ($97.85) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $97.85

[whyzze]

I dont shove turn, but I make it 20ish.

[11t]

Raising to 20 with 18 left behind is terrible advice

I call the turn and hope a spade doesn't hit the river then call a river bet

If a spade hits you are faced with a difficult decision but I would prbably still call a moderately sized river bet since villain is aggressive enough that he may not have a spade in his hand

[whyzze]

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Raising to 20 with 18 left behind is terrible advice

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explain please...FE is not an issue on the river.

Only reason to push turn is if we know he will call with the Ac.

Calling turn is horrible.

[monkeymaps]

agianst this villian I like turn raise cause he could be calling with alot of worse hands but agianst a more conservitive villan raising turn only commits in this wa/wb spot IMO

[11t]

FE isn't an issue but you are pot committed if you raise to 20 so you might as well push and get your money in instead of raising to 20 and then putting yourself in some god awful situation where you are basically forced to call the river regardless of what falls (ie an A or spade falls)

You have top two pair on a fairly coordinated board. Your hand is good but not that great.

Villains stats are donkeyish however it is over 22 hands so I would not even pay attention to them. Unless I had seen him do something that would lead me to believe that I am categorically ahead of his range then I would prefer to play a smaller pot instead of a larger one.

Anyway if you shove the turn/raise the turn I am not that sure how often villain calls when you are ahead unless it is with ak with the ace of spades.

FWIW at higher limits people who call reraises and then lead the turn instead of 3-betting the flop typically are not nits and have the nuts

[whyzze]

I have no problem folding the river if a spade hits.

[monkeymaps]

if you raise turn your pretty much AI on the river

[11t]

If you re-raise the turn do you fold to a push?

[whyzze]

never...and btw...calling the turn gives him odds to catch his flush. Not just with the ace, but with any spade he could have in his hand.