MGM trip report

[jack frost]

Just got back from the MGM I was over all very happy with the casino/card room. There only real complaint I have is the dealers. They didn't seem to be the greatest dealers over all but certainly not the worse either. There seemed to be some reason that all the dealers kept trying to tell the players that when they go all in or call all in the 1$ chips do not play???? One dealer actually pulled 5$ worth of ones from the pot and threw them back to the player. After the whole table told the dealer how stupid this was one guy finally called the floor over and he ruled with us. We were playing 2-5 nl why wouldn't 5$ in singles count????????? This happened with a few of the dealers it wasn't just this one.

I did like the card room over all and the chip runners were really nice. Playing in A.C. allot I am not used to them and it was a very nice feature. The waitresses were very quick with the drinks and I loved how the players card is swiped at the table and you don't have to remember to check out when you leave. I always seem to forget and have to run back after I already was half way to my room in A.C.

The games were always going atleast 2-5 nl and the card room was packed all day long for the whole week. I don't really have allot of memorable hands but I did wind up winning 1200 over about 20 hrs of play which was nice. There was only one problem with players I saw the whole week which was one was accused of looking at another players cards. A very dirty local guy sat down and bought in for like 150$ then a tourist donk sat right next to him. The donk kept picking his cards up to look at them and the local guy was seen looking over to peek at his cards. There was a short tiff at the table and then we went back to playing.

[Lottery Larry]

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There was only one problem with players I saw the whole week which was one was accused of looking at another players cards. A very dirty local guy sat down and bought in for like 150$ then a tourist donk sat right next to him. The donk kept picking his cards up to look at them and the local guy was seen looking over to peek at his cards. There was a short tiff at the table and then we went back to playing.

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After I'd warned him once, I'd look at 'em too. What's the problem?

[jack frost]

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There was only one problem with players I saw the whole week which was one was accused of looking at another players cards. A very dirty local guy sat down and bought in for like 150$ then a tourist donk sat right next to him. The donk kept picking his cards up to look at them and the local guy was seen looking over to peek at his cards. There was a short tiff at the table and then we went back to playing.

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After I'd warned him once, I'd look at 'em too. What's the problem?

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He never warned the player and was going out of his way to look. After a few of us noticed it and was mumbling about it one guy said some thing to the donk and the local guy starting getting defensive and claimed that he was just looking at his hands trying to get a tell.
He was just pissed because someone notified the donk and his angle got shot down.

[KipBond]

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After I'd warned him once, I'd look at 'em too. What's the problem?

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The problem is that it's an unfair advantage over the other players at the table that didn't get to see those cards.

And - it's a violation of the "show one show all" rule.

And - it's implicit collusion.

And - in my opinion - it's cheating (you wouldn't want to be the one not getting to see two sets of hole cards would you?)

[Lottery Larry]

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After I'd warned him once, I'd look at 'em too. What's the problem?

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The problem is that it's an unfair advantage over the other players at the table that didn't get to see those cards.

And - it's a violation of the "show one show all" rule.

And - it's implicit collusion.

And - in my opinion - it's cheating (you wouldn't want to be the one not getting to see two sets of hole cards would you?)

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And if I were one of the other players, I'd complain also. But, not much to say if villan (me) warns idiot player and he keeps flashing the cards anyway.

[KipBond]

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And if I were one of the other players, I'd complain also. But, not much to say if villan (me) warns idiot player and he keeps flashing the cards anyway.

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You asked what the problem was. OP was saying villain was looking at donk's cards. That was the problem. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[LocustHorde]

Very nice and congrats on the winnings, how was the caliber of competition you faced?

[jack frost]

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Very nice and congrats on the winnings, how was the caliber of competition you faced?

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I saw lots of tight passive type players basically waiting for a hand and trying to make money on it. The locals were mostly short stacking ie. they would buy in for like 150$ or so and try to make a stack or would buy in full and play very tight. Most of the other tourist's seemed pretty bad with a few that were pretty decent mixed in. I should add I only played at MGM also. I saw lots of people making lots of dumb plays LOTS!!!
The funniest thing I saw in the card room was when I was in line at the wait list one mourning and 3 young foreign kids possibly from England or some where in Europe walked up to the counter and the one asked the lady what the highest buy in in the room was she replied 2-5 nl NL and he said ok and got on the list he pulled his wad out of his pocket and had maybe 300$ AT MOST he played for about 20 minutes before I saw him leave the room.
I was very surprised to see how many people would sit down at a 2-5nl table and buy in for 500$ and had no idea at all of how to play or would come right out and say that it is their first time playing. I wish my wife would consider moving to Vegas I would like to play there on a regular basis. I play on average probably once a month in A.C. and I found the play in Vegas to be softer as far as the tourist players but I found the locals seemed to be tighter and less aggressive than the lagtard local players in A.C.

[jack frost]

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After I'd warned him once, I'd look at 'em too. What's the problem?

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The problem is that it's an unfair advantage over the other players at the table that didn't get to see those cards.

And - it's a violation of the "show one show all" rule.

And - it's implicit collusion.

And - in my opinion - it's cheating (you wouldn't want to be the one not getting to see two sets of hole cards would you?)

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And if I were one of the other players, I'd complain also. But, not much to say if villain (me) warns idiot player and he keeps flashing the cards anyway.

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Villain never once warned the other player that he could see his cards. If he had there would have been no problem. Don't get me wrong the guy was stupid for picking his cards up and exposing them but he had no right to be stretching his neck and looking at his cards every hand. He would bet like 150$ into a 60$ pot if he wanted the guy to fold and would value bet him knowing he would call if he wanted the call. The guy showing his cards was very,very bad and obviously hadn't played much he would call every hand just about and was almost always in to the river.

[PeteN]

What was the wait time for 2-5nl I've never been able to play 2-5nl at mgm because the wait times are so long. 1-2nl no problem.