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Old 07-02-2007, 08:21 AM
HCGringo HCGringo is offline
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Default NL5 - 9 10s

Hi, first of all I am new here, and very new to poker. I started in mid April. How would you play this hand and what does villain have? And is it important what he think I might have to how I played the hand.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.04 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $1.72
BB: $5.53
UTG: $5.10
UTG+1: $2.79
MP1: $5.94
MP2: $8.31
CO: $1.86
Hero (BTN): $5.34

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.04, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.20</font>, SB folds, BB calls $0.16, UTG+1 folds

Flop: ($0.46) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $0.16</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.60</font>, BB calls $0.44

Turn: ($1.66) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $0.20</font>, Hero calls $0.20

River: ($2.06) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $0.52</font>, <font color="red">Hero??
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:22 AM
Bad Beat Maker Bad Beat Maker is offline
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Default Re: NL5 - 9 10s

This is micro-stakes limit. Wrong place. Try Micro NL.
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:44 AM
M.H.L. M.H.L. is offline
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Default Re: NL5 - 9 10s

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This is micro-stakes limit. Wrong place. Try Micro NL.

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I would not raise with 9Ts , also from late Position!

On the Flop you just got the odds to call, why raise !? You have nothing and building a big pot!

On the river you get your Flush, but you have the problem that your Flush is really not the best one!

Ok after all i would call here, you have only to win ones in five times, and at least your flush might be good enough!

And no its not important what villian is thinking what you have, cause on that limit the normal player dont care what you have!
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: NL5 - 9 10s

Raising isn't awful here with 109s, just don't do it every time, but raising with suited connectors isn't too bad when you have position. They are easy to play heads up, you have either a good hand/draw, or 10 high and an easy fold. If there were more limpers than the one, i would just call as they play better in multiway pots.

Raising his weak lead on the flop with your OESD is good. It may make him fold as you are repping an overpair/AJ ish hand, and you should be able to take a free card on the turn if he calls.

He bets small on the turn, i like a call here. Its likely he has a J now, and you have a tons of outs which you should be able to get paid off.

River, i find it hard to put him on a boat or higher flush, so i probably just push it in. He calls with enough hands that you beat, mainly every J, hat this becomes profitable. He could also have 109 and be value betting his straight.
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: NL5 - 9 10s

Pre-flop - following limpers, I usually limp behind with this hand. Its a good multi-way pot hand so I actually don't mind people coming in behind me. What was your reason for raising?

Flop - I don't mind the raise if you think you have a chance to get BB to fold, but generally people who call a pf raise and then donk into the pfr have a made hand, usually top pair. So anything short of a shove probably doesn't get BB to fold and even then... I just call behind here, he's giving you great drawing odds.

Turn - J likely helps your villain, but it also helps you by adding the flush draw. I like your call here.

River - I think I just call here, although I really want to raise this because any jack is going to call this. Problem is the board paired on the turn. The other thing is that his bet increased on the river so either he's not scared of the flush or he's an idiot because he should know that if you raise him he's likely to be calling with the rest of his stack. Yeah, I think I call and make a note on what he had, so I can play him better later on.

To answer your other question: Most people at this level are only focused on their two cards.

Hand range on the river: 55,88,tt,jj,QQ,KK,AA,AQ, J9,jt,qj,kj,aj
Some of these are more likely than others though. I doubt he has AA,KK
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:21 AM
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Default Re: NL5 - 9 10s

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Hand range on the river: 55,88,tt,jj,QQ,KK,AA,AQ, J9,jt,qj,kj,aj
Some of these are more likely than others though. I doubt he has AA,KK

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I don't think his range includes as many of the pairs. A lot of these would 3 bet the flop, re raise preflop, check raise the turn or play stronger in some way. Villain has played this hand very weak, i expect to see a random J here far more times than an overpair or a boat
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: NL5 - 9 10s

This is well played. Shove the river, though.
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: NL5 - 9 10s

This hand is well played on all streets IMHO.

Raise on the end. I probably make it $2. You will get value from any Jack... sucks if he had JQ.
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:08 AM
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Raising isn't awful here with 109s, just don't do it every time, but raising with suited connectors isn't too bad when you have position. They are easy to play heads up, you have either a good hand/draw, or 10 high and an easy fold. If there were more limpers than the one, i would just call as they play better in multiway pots.

Raising his weak lead on the flop with your OESD is good. It may make him fold as you are repping an overpair/AJ ish hand, and you should be able to take a free card on the turn if he calls.

He bets small on the turn, i like a call here. Its likely he has a J now, and you have a tons of outs which you should be able to get paid off.

River, i find it hard to put him on a boat or higher flush, so i probably just push it in. He calls with enough hands that you beat, mainly every J, hat this becomes profitable. He could also have 109 and be value betting his straight.

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agreeing with above
flop is weak and sayinging he has something
turn makes it obvious a weak J or indeed 9T also
so yeah a call is fine here on turn
and river call is fine but i guess you get more value by raising/shoving
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:50 AM
M.H.L. M.H.L. is offline
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Default Re: NL5 - 9 10s

Hmm still a lot to learn i see [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]! I play my draws but not that agressiv (@ reraise on flop), perhaps i should overthink that...
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