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Old 07-11-2007, 06:59 PM
NinaWilliams NinaWilliams is offline
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Default AA gets the usual river

BB is 35/20, laggish. CO is unknown but seems to be a calling station from what ive seen.

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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10.5SB, 5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button folds, BB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.75BB, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, BB calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9.75BB, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero GJASRD*^&amp;SED^^
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: AA gets the usual river

i'm back and forth here. i'm pretty sure bb doesn't have you beat though. i'd say check.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: AA gets the usual river

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i'm back and forth here. i'm pretty sure bb doesn't have you beat though. i'd say check.

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c/c or c/f?
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: AA gets the usual river

if u ck u pretty much have to fold here
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:18 PM
Robin Foolz Robin Foolz is offline
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Default Re: AA gets the usual river

b/f. value value. don't be surprised if they both call here and you still win.

i think bb definitely bets here with a straight/flush with the fear of it getting checked behind. so i would be quite confident that i beat bb at least when he checks.

calling station is, well, calling station.
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Old 07-11-2007, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: AA gets the usual river

bet, but call when CO folds and BB raises imho
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Old 07-11-2007, 08:25 PM
UtzChips UtzChips is offline
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Default Re: AA gets the usual river

With almost 10 big bets in the pot, everyone wants to see the showdown without having to pay too much when they don't have the nutz.

I don't think BB is going to bet a straight, since it only takes one card to make the king high. If you have the straight, you don't want to pay 2 bets, which you have to do, as a bluff would be getting almost 11:1.

PF, CO calls with KQs/KQo? Possible he'd not raise with KQs, as well as AJ and even KJs. What about AQ? I'd 3 bet AQ. I wouldn't call 2 bets PF with Q8s though.

BB could have Q9 since he only had to pay 1 BB to see the flop.

If CO bets and BB calls, I call, even though it's probably -Ev, it's almost 12:1 and muckin the best hand here would end my poker playing for the day.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:07 PM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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Default Re: AA gets the usual river

i bet and fold if the co raises

I bet and fold if the co calls and the BB raises

i bet and call if the co folds and the bb c/r, because he can't have it there.
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:07 AM
Heisenb3rg Heisenb3rg is offline
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Default Re: AA gets the usual river

Im really not sure without a better read... It could be a bet/fold, could be a check fold or a check/call.

Im leaning towards check fold... They both have to have disgustingly wide ranges for you to be good here 1/10 when someone who seems passive bets. With no reads about their style Id probabily call for information and accept it may well be -EV... But I think the right play is to check/fold.

The only hands your ahead of that can even semi plausably call the turn are hands like T8, 98, Tx Low, J8, A8/K8?? (super calling station), 56 diamonds, 45 diamonds, 46 diamonds, AJ, AT, A9, A2

Now consider that the calling station will very likely bet a small fraction of these hands.. Then the huge range that your losing to (remmeber only one of two players has to have a hand that beat yours).. The reason I choose check fold over bet/fold is I think that even bad players can lay down weak pairs on this river.. Also there will be many times it gets checked through, your in 2nd place to 2 pair (and save a bet).

The fact that you have 2 of the aces sucks too, because it makes hands like AT, A9, AJ half as likely.

Tough Spot :/
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: AA gets the usual river

If you check you have to fold to a bet from CO. I'd bet-fold here but it's thin.

Rob
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