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Old 06-18-2007, 11:31 PM
Emperor Norton Emperor Norton is offline
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Default PL25: Flopped third nuts in multiway limped pot

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($24.85)
MP ($17.30)
CO ($15.80)
Button ($5.85)
SB ($12.40)
Hero ($29.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1.25</font>, Hero calls $1.25, UTG calls $1.25, MP calls $1.25, CO folds, Button folds.

Turn: ($6.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $2.25</font>, SB calls $2.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15.2</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, SB calls $8.65 (All-In).

This is a pretty basic situation that I have no idea how to approach. Does anyone raise/fold the flop? I opted to call and reevaluate, but then I wasn't quite sure what to do with the information I got. After the flop bettor gives up, should I fire a PSB on the turn? I was hesitant to fire away because I felt if raised I'd probably still have to fold. The way I played it, I felt fairly confident that I was way ahead when I put my money in, but I realize that letting the turn get checked through is a horrible mistake. So what's my line?
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: PL25: Flopped third nuts in multiway limped pot

after SB checks, I'd bet the turn.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: PL25: Flopped third nuts in multiway limped pot

i'd call the flop bet never
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: PL25: Flopped third nuts in multiway limped pot

Really? Does my hand hold that little value? I'm just donking around in PLO, so I only have a fuzzy idea of hand values, but I figured the third nuts was good for something, at least.
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: PL25: Flopped third nuts in multiway limped pot

What would you do with the third nuts at the turn or river? Bet out and gets raised, calling and see into some guys first or second nuts?
Checking and gives the guys acting behind of you a chance to bluff you out of the pot (The naked ace can shove this turn especially if its getting checked to him in late position) or call down their first and second nut flush?

The problem is, if its getting all-in at the turn or at the river you are many times behind and if you are ahead you will many times win only a medium pot.

As played you do not know where you are at any street in this hand and it will cost you to much to find it out. At the flop I think you have the best chance to find out, if you are ahead with raising the bet from SB, but why should he bet out at this flop in an unraised pot with something you can beat?
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: PL25: Flopped third nuts in multiway limped pot

Fair enough. What if I flop the second nuts? On a monotone board in a multiway pot, should I continue only with the absolute nuts?
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: PL25: Flopped third nuts in multiway limped pot

well you would also want to continue with, for example, JJ. Or if the situation was different (e.g. a lot of guys checked first and then someone bet) then you might want to stay in with a small flush. But generally when someone bets into a big field like this give them credit for a very big hand.
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: PL25: Flopped third nuts in multiway limped pot

i think the turn is pretty bad spew. you cant assume no one has the nut flush on this level just because they dont bet/raise on the flop or turn. i also like folding the flop in this position.
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: PL25: Flopped third nuts in multiway limped pot

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Really? Does my hand hold that little value? I'm just donking around in PLO, so I only have a fuzzy idea of hand values, but I figured the third nuts was good for something, at least.

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Your hand probably has some + worth here, but don't overplay the 3rd nuts an unraised pot with lots of people to act after you. Your risk reward sucks.
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