easy river raise?

[NinaWilliams]

Villain is 30/11/1.5. Earlier I 3 bet him with AQ, he called, and c/ced down on a K high flop with JJ.

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9SB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (11.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero

[jstill]

weird... i duno how much that read from earlier helps here other than he didnt cap it preflop so he may not be that aggro overall.

this certainly is a weird line for him if hes got u beat, i think its a chop or hes got a missed fd or QJ too often for ur river raise to be +EV. I just dont see him taking this line with an overpair or 44 often enough ( or bet calling A hi) to put myself in the position to hate myself for raise calling.

[MacGuyV]

QJ or missed FD - WTF? I think this is an easy raise. He plays really bad regardless.

[Jubinator]

Yea Im going with easy raise, not many hands hands have the ten in them.

[BrassMonkey]

No way, just call the river. He has a ten, for sure. I end up doing stupid slowplay stuff like this sometimes. When i'm in that crappy mode, this is how I play it.

Actually, I think it's decent, if he has a ten. He probably doesn't think you'd call a cap on the turn, but might call a river bet with something like JJ+. He certainly can't put you on an eight. Would someone with an overpair really play like this? I guess he would, if he thinks you have a worse overpair. I still think he has a ten, but I guess that only leaves AT. Maybe this guy wouldn't three bet that out of position pre-flop. Eh, maybe it's a raise. Okay, end of Joyceian rant.

[downrange]

if a 30/11 has a T then he turned quads [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

probably an overpair, easy raise IMM

[dano]

why do you think he plays bad?

[dano]

if you raise the river, what do you do if he 3-bets? I certainly wouldn't like folding a 16.5 BB pot.

Also you might want to post the hand you played with AQ on a Kxx flop. Sounds like you bet all three streets UI and he called you down with JJ.

[gehrig]

cap flopppppppp

most of the time u make a little more money by calling and raising turn. but when u cap sometimes he leads turn and u make a little more, and sometimes he crs turn and u make a ton more

river is weird i duinno

[Oink]

I am with Gehrig and Downrange.

Jam the flop and dont worry about the T. He has overpairs a lot more often than Tx so raise the river.