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Fold QQ when player accidently flashes an ace preflop?
Here's what happened. NL hold'em. No re-buys or add-ons. $50 buy-in home game tournament. 22 players. $5000 in starting chips, so there's $110,000 chips in play. Payout to the top 4 spots. It's down to 8 players and I'm a good chip leader with $30,000 in chips (over a quarter of the chips in play). I have a solid image, as I've only been showing down good cards.
Blinds are now 600/1200. I am in the big blind for $1,200 with QQ. Everyone folds around to the button, who raises it up to $5000. He is the second chip leader with $19,000 in chips, leaving him $14,000 more. He is a good loose aggressive player who would certainly make button raises with a lot of different hands. Before it gets to me, he accidentally flashes one of his cards, an Ace of clubs. It was an actual accident, not some sort of play. In a casino tournament, exposing a card would make his hand dead, but since it was a home tournament, they decided to keep his hand live. I know now that the only two hands that threaten me that he can have are AA or AK for a coin flip. All other hands I have him dominated. Question is, seeing as how he is 2nd chip leader and the player who can make the biggest dent in my stack, should I fold for that possibility he has AA? In the end, I decided to move all in, and he instantly called. He turned over AA. The worst part of it all, is that after the flop came blank, I turned a queen for a set, and then he rivered an ace to win the hand. Unfortunately, on the very next hand, I called another person's all-in with my remaining $10,000 with pocket kings when they had AQ. And of course, as the title of Barry Greenstein's book dictates, there came an ace on the river. From dominating chip leader to eliminated in two hands, what can ya do? Question remains, could I have folded the QQ after knowing my opponent had at least one ace in his hand? |
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Re: Fold QQ when player accidently flashes an ace preflop?
Nope. You played it fine. only 1 hand with an ace that dominates you (AA) and 1 hand that is a coinflip (AK). With the rest of the possible hands he is holding, you have him dominated.
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Re: Fold QQ when player accidently flashes an ace preflop?
GG WP UL sir.
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Re: Fold QQ when player accidently flashes an ace preflop?
Simple probability says you should call or raise here. since you the chance of him having a or k is slim.
That said, with all the kerfuffle over his flashed ace, I'm very suprised you didn't manage to get a read on him. This is just the kind of time when live offers lots of oppurtunities that online doesnt. |
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Re: Fold QQ when player accidently flashes an ace preflop?
Foldings pretty horrid. Maybe you can consider calling given the extra info we have which will help us post flop, though I think I'd just keep it simple and shove
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Re: Fold QQ when player accidently flashes an ace preflop?
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Foldings pretty horrid. [/ QUOTE ] Unless you have Beth Shak and Phil Helmuth both all in, high fiving each other, and congratulating themselves before it's your turn to act. Then, by all means, fold queens or even kings... |
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Re: Fold QQ when player accidently flashes an ace preflop?
Forever known as the Shak Helmuth exception. Also, if you opponent runs into an audience, tells their husband I HAVE ACES LOL before that commences you can feel even better about your read.
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Re: Fold QQ when player accidently flashes an ace preflop?
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In a casino tournament, exposing a card would make his hand dead [/ QUOTE ] Not according to TDA rules. He would recieve a penalty (time out) though. TDA rules (might not be 100% up to date) |
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Re: Fold QQ when player accidently flashes an ace preflop?
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Forever known as the Shak Helmuth exception. Also, if you opponent runs into an audience, tells their husband I HAVE ACES LOL before that commences you can feel even better about your read. [/ QUOTE ]That was sooooo bad. A "friend" (who shall go unnamed) was guilty of this in a stud 8 wsop event this year, but not nearly so blatent. He caught a wheel on the river and said something like "I love you dealer" as he bet his last 200 chips. Four people still paid off the bet and he scooped the pot. Obv 200 into a 10k pot is much different, but he was pretty embarrassed after. Grinning like a jackass while you bet the nuts is probably - EV |
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