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Old 11-01-2007, 07:24 PM
Indiana Indiana is offline
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Default $220 NLTRN - Hand Against ToddyTilt10

I don't play this guy a lot but I know he's a baller on FT. He has been pretty passive this match, despite his reputation of being a very aggressive player. Up until this point I have been beating on him pretty bad, and he has been sitting back and not really defending himself. I've already gotten him all in once and he sucked out to get back into the match.

Then came this hand, and I didnt know what the hell to do:




Full Tilt Poker, $220 + $10 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 30/60 Blinds, 2 Players
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Hero (BB): 1,640
SB: 1,360

Pre-Flop: (90) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
SB calls 30, Hero checks

Flop: (120) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets 90</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to 1,300 and is All-In</font>, Hero ?

What do I do? I mean, he has to know that a hugely winning player like myself will see this as a draw, so it cannot possibly be a draw can it? Or can it? What can he have here?

Indy
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: $220 NLTRN - Hand Against ToddyTilt10

Seeing as I correctly guessed this was ToddyTilt he does this with a wide range (especially when frusterated) so easy call, you will see some Tx type hands but he does this less with JT type stuff and more with like weak kickers from what Ive seen.
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: $220 NLTRN - Hand Against ToddyTilt10

I fold here unless you have a good idea that he does this with worse pairs than you have.
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: $220 NLTRN - Hand Against ToddyTilt10

I wouldn't call at all . You are quite possibly being set up here and I doubt he's that bad to only shove with a draw . At these levels , players use a well balanced strategy to throw you off balance . With that being said , you have little invested , so it's wise to lay your hand down .

As Doyle Brunson once said : You should never go broke in an unraised pot .
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: $220 NLTRN - Hand Against ToddyTilt10

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I wouldn't call at all . You are quite possibly being set up here and I doubt he's that bad to only shove with a draw . At these levels , players use a well balanced strategy to throw you off balance . With that being said , you have little invested , so it's wise to lay your hand down .

As Doyle Brunson once said : You should never go broke in an unraised pot .

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Note to self: Never raise preflop against Doyle Brunson.
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Old 11-01-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: $220 NLTRN - Hand Against ToddyTilt10

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As Doyle Brunson once said : You should never go broke in an unraised pot .

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Something tells me Doyle wasn't talking about shortstacked play or husng's. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 11-01-2007, 09:19 PM
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Default Re: $220 NLTRN - Hand Against ToddyTilt10

well i couldnt call so i folded and proceeded to destroy Toddy. Still couldnt help feeling like I got bluffed on a flush draw or something here.

Thanks guys-Indy
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Old 11-01-2007, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: $220 NLTRN - Hand Against ToddyTilt10

Yea, but it's not a huge bluff or anything, it's more like you get semi bluffed. He probably has 8 FD outs and another out most of the time he has the FD and when he has a pair he should be beating you most of the time.

Cwar obviously knows Toddy, so if he's saying call here I would call, but against a player who's played like this so far in the game I don't think making this call is good.
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Old 11-01-2007, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: $220 NLTRN - Hand Against ToddyTilt10

compared to this guy you're not much of a "[huge] [winner]" [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: $220 NLTRN - Hand Against ToddyTilt10

how nice of u to point that out....actually he's played like 9 times more games than me, but as far as our hourly rate, he's not that much better than me w.r.t earnings......but that's not the point of this and i dont know why you are trying to point out that a guy like me with a full time job may actually make a little less than a full time grinder, who happens to be the best at a given limit.

I still make more $ than him if you look at total compensation

Indy
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